Primal drop system, still no changes?!

[tachi]

Would not be surprised to see an increase in nut drops in a patch for 1.21a/b/c

To be fair SE knows how to do the basic math on the ifrit/moogle drop rates. They know what it takes to get all drops/your desired drop. If they made the loot system exchangable/tradable inside the instance they would have just nerfed the drop rates. They want you to do 200~225 runs to get all the 7 weapons. 180 runs was the 50% rate for being 7/7 (ex on avg half the population will be 7/7 after 180 successful runs).

[Junpei]

Drop for moogle and ifrit have significant increased since 1.21
Every single run I have been in has dropped at LEAST 1 weapon to the party. Usually and occasionally 3.

But it has been a guaranteed drop every run! so you have a 1 in 8 chance of something \o/

[Antipika]

Drop for moogle and ifrit have significant increased since 1.21
Every single run I have been in has dropped at LEAST 1 weapon to the party. Usually and occasionally 3.

But it has been a guaranteed drop every run! so you have a 1 in 8 chance of something \o/

You're just lucky, nothing was changed at all... Or we would have been told that it was changed. There is no point for SE to "ninja fix" something like this without letting players know since it's a "positive" change.

[Junpei]

You're just lucky, nothing was changed at all... Or we would have been told that it was changed. There is no point for SE to "ninja fix" something like this without letting players know since it's a "positive" change.

SE ninja fix stuff all the time, beneficial and negativo.

[Antipika]

SE ninja fix stuff all the time, beneficial and negativo.

When its minor sure. You just make no sense however.

When the whole community is complaining about something, if a change going the community way is made, why would SE hide it? Hey remember we are now paying for this. SE's goal to try and please us to the best they can. So there wouldn't be any valid reason for them not to tell us.

Check patch notes, even very small changes are in there. Why this very one would be excluded? Simple, because nothing was changed anyway... Drop rate is still as bad as before.

[Arcell]

Drop for moogle and ifrit have significant increased since 1.21
Every single run I have been in has dropped at LEAST 1 weapon to the party. Usually and occasionally 3.

But it has been a guaranteed drop every run! so you have a 1 in 8 chance of something \o/

That's just you being lucky then. I've been in groups with all Dark Matter wins since 1.21.

[Meatdawg]

Drop for moogle and ifrit have significant increased since 1.21
Every single run I have been in has dropped at LEAST 1 weapon to the party. Usually and occasionally 3.

But it has been a guaranteed drop every run! so you have a 1 in 8 chance of something \o/

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[Dragonheart]

We're sorry but... blaaa blaaa blaaa, blaaa blaa, bla.... 2.0 !

[Scherwiz]

We're sorry but... blaaa blaaa blaaa, blaaa blaa, bla.... 2.0 !

They should get one of those robo phone women for that message.

"We're sorry, but your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please hang up the phone and try again ... some time in the future."

[Dokuton-Razortaru]

Its just a grind-fest time-sink. After coming back and finding out the tokens dropped less than actual weapons ... and were not 100% drop rate i was pretty pissed that it was still mostly grind grind grind grind grind.