Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
So your not advocating for the removal of meta so much as you're advocating for a different kind of meta.
Kinda but not really. You can never remove the meta, there will always be a meta of what does best in any scenario. Just playing the class someone enjoy sounds great and fanciful but that is an unobtainable goal without rampant homogenization or content that requires bottom level difficulty to complete.
I was advocating for non meta things to dilute the amount of meta required. Say if they added an encounter where door or drawbridges had to be lowered to allow dps to be done, and say they allowed ninjas to use their teleport to cross a moat typically separating the controls from the party without a lengthy run around to a crossing. Now the "meta" has changed and ninjas are preferred for their utility, and any other class with some way to interact with the world outside dps or dps-boosting support benefits as more dps doesn't make the fight clear any faster and there isn't a hard invuln phase that can't be pushed(obviously an extremely rough example with flaws)
You can never remove the meta, checkers has a meta, tik tac toe has a meta. Anything competitive will develop a meta. This isn't going to be solved by telling raiders to stop being efficient, this requires the players and mostly the devs to solve. Raiders just creat the meta where lesser skilled raiders copy and take as gospel thus locking non meta jobs out