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    I suspect, as you started early, they were interested in keeping to (or ahead of) schedule. Get to the end, and they want to fill in time. But yes, if they can change rules as they go along to better fill their schedule they should say so, and they certainly shouldn't be pretending none of it happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    I suspect, as you started early, they were interested in keeping to (or ahead of) schedule. Get to the end, and they want to fill in time. But yes, if they can change rules as they go along to better fill their schedule they should say so, and they certainly shouldn't be pretending none of it happened.
    This quote is particularly unforgivable:

    Quote Originally Posted by zerox102 View Post
    Briefly another SE employee came by and told us that "if something like that happened" (again pretty much implying it didn't) then they were "very lucky" and we should "be grateful we got to play at all".
    I guess it's like community, like devs. To me it is extremely passive-aggressive, and unprofessional.

    Devs and consumers are not a one-sided relationship, and consumers shouldn't be "grateful" for everything. We pay for a product, in that case I assume people may have paid for tickets, hotel, etc... Devs nowadays seem to have forgotten WE, as consumers, are the reason they have a job. If we decided to stop buying their products, they would learn very quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I wasn't even originally talking about community reps. I was replying to someone saying the devs had an antagonistic outlook towards their players recently. Someone took my response and turned it into an argument over community reps.
    Then you are assuming that professional behavior doesn't apply to the average dev? It does. They represent the company whether they like it or not, whether they have a blue checkmark or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    This quote is particularly unforgivable:

    I guess it's like community, like devs. To me it is extremely passive-aggressive, and unprofessional.

    Devs and consumers are not a one-sided relationship, and consumers shouldn't be "grateful" for everything. We pay for a product, in that case I assume people may have paid for tickets, hotel, etc... Devs nowadays seem to have forgotten WE, as consumers, are the reason they have a job. If we decided to stop buying their products, they would learn very quickly.

    Then you are assuming that professional behavior doesn't apply to the average dev? It does. They represent the company whether they like it or not, whether they have a blue checkmark or not.
    I think you are under some sort of misunderstanding. The people at these conferences, unless they are on a development panel, are not devs. They do not work on the development of the game. A dev is separate from the community team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I think you are under some sort of misunderstanding. The people at these conferences, unless they are on a development panel, are not devs. They do not work on the development of the game. A dev is separate from the community team.
    So now you are talking about community reps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    So now you are talking about community reps?

    I give up. You have to be trolling. You keep talking about devs. Yet mention the people at this event. I'm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I give up. You have to be trolling. You keep talking about devs. Yet mention the people at this event. I'm done.


    I was both talking about devs in general, and the need for professionalism among them while also citing this case as an example. In one of my last posts I specifically quoted the part of what a supposed rep said to the OP.
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