Revelations from Gamescom 2019

[Alleluia]

Hmmm I'm wondering though does he mean the quests that are part of the post stormblood story line or was he meaning the start of shb?

I'm thinking Yoshida *might* have been referencing the prophetic dialogue that the Khan of the Mol can give us during the SB patch quests?

I love how Yoshida was like, "Wow, these people are so well researched!" and it's just all you nerds at my favorite campfire.

Long live the lore forum.

And he says that to the lore question I threw out there while also thinking to myself, "They won't answer this, its too narrow." lol Whelp.

[Rannie]

Hmmm time to stop screwing around on my alt and get her to sb.... she's almost done with hw..... gd it I really wish New Game + was available now. You only get so much from what cutscenes they give you in the unending journey...

[AmemeAmeklin]

Now I have to check back on cutscenes to see how our mask is different from Hythlodaeus's...it looked the same to me but it was a vague, faraway glimpse.

Okay, I got some screenshots.




I dunno, it's impossible to actually tell what shape that mask is...although there don't seem to be any eye holes or a beak for sure.

[Lauront]

So with the whole notion of hazy memories of the ancient world still residing in the memories of some, besides potentially giving us a hint as to what the Twelve are (Hades's analogies to Nald'thal, ranging from the sign of Gemini, to his aspect of death and domain of sorcery have been noted), I think it also may be an answer as to why Sharlayan has some similarities with Amaurot, like its style of government, its focus on acquiring knowledge and reverence of it and its non-interventionist attitude, as well as the ancient Greek elements to its architecture. We know there was at least one Ascian active there (Emmerololth on Val), but I wonder if it ever piqued their interest and whether others have invested some time there. Even just being the origin point for many a Scion must intrigue some of them.

[Theodric]

Insofar as 6.0 is concerned, I wouldn't be surprised if Sharlayan is a potential destination. As it stands, there's a lot of similarities in the aesthetics of Sharlayan and what we saw in Amaurot. Akademia Anyder and Saint Mocianne's Arboretum bear a lot of similarities, for instance.

[WanderingStar]

It's interesting as well that the WOL as an Ancient would have a mask differentiating them from the rest of the council and citizenry. The sidequests tell us that they all dress the same intentionally to prevent the seeds of jealousy and whatnot. Perhaps the WOL was special even then and had a unique mask OR each of the council had a unique mask to denote their position I.E. The Emissary etc.

[Alleo]

That answers two questions in one. Our souls are rejoined, and that means everyone - not just selected special ones.

Good to finally have a confirmation on that. But then that means that after the 7th calamity somehow all these souls from the shard just flew over the lands and rejoined with their counterpart. Quite interesting that nobody has noticed something like that?

Otherwise good to know that some of us were quite right that Hythlo and the WoL are not the same person and that "Ascian" was not the name for all Ancient beings.

I do wonder why Emet created such imperfect illusions. It would be understandable for the normal shades but why do that for those he counted as friends? Is that a hint that Emet truly does not remember them exactly thus that they too do not have the perfect memory? Or is it just the case that SE did not want to give them faces because its more work? Would have been nice to see that because then we might have been able to see if they have some hints of other races in them or if they have complete new faces.

[Enla]

I do wonder why Emet created such imperfect illusions. It would be understandable for the normal shades but why do that for those he counted as friends? Is that a hint that Emet truly does not remember them exactly thus that they too do not have the perfect memory? Or is it just the case that SE did not want to give them faces because its more work? Would have been nice to see that because then we might have been able to see if they have some hints of other races in them or if they have complete new faces.

It could also be taken as a sign of ever present grief. If I was in his position, doomed to wander for hundreds upon hundreds of eras with the smallest hope that I might one day be reunited with my loved ones, I don't think I could stomach seeing false copies of them running about during what we know to be their last day. The weight of that grief alone would be too much to bear, particularly watching as loved ones happily went about the very same routine that would end in their deaths, and thus a more anonymous representation would be preferred. It could also be a form of guilt, an unwillingness to let those he loved see how far he's fallen to bring them back. Though given Emet's determination and 'it's not really murder' line in regards to being called out for the countless acts of genocide he's been party to it seems unlikely.

I'm sure the team will come up with a lore reason down the line but for now I do honestly think it was a 'let's not create more work for ourselves' sort of situation.

[Crushnight]

On that point, was it confirmed that it is made of his own aether, or is this an inference from it being a familiar (unless that in turn confirms it)?

It's also worth recalling that whilst fragmented, some souls on the First do still possess the Echo, which could be the case with him. That, plus an unfamiliar fighting style, may have proved enough to temporarily allow him to hold off the WoL... until it wasn't enough.

He is an interesting character and I am glad they avoided going down the "part Sin Eater" route for him, because I feel it'd cheapen it somewhat as a plot angle, given that it had already been used for Vauthry.

The A rank Hurracan in Khoulsia is said to be made up of Ran'jit's father's aether, it is exactly the same as Ran'jit's serpent just bigger, this could be due to Ran'jit's father transferring more aether to it as he became a sin eater. So Ran'jit's serpent is just his aether made manifest with his martial style he learned from his father, so yea he truly fought us on his own power with no help which is actually really nice to hear, as it means ordinary mortals can have enough power to stand up to us if they undergo enough training/experience without needing to resort to magical merguffin like the resonant/echo/primal etc.

Now whether it was a good thing it was a being born on the First rather than the Source that did this is debatable especially given the revelations from ShB that we were 8/14 complete at that point while Ran'ji was just 1/14.

[QT_Melon]

It could also be taken as a sign of ever present grief. If I was in his position, doomed to wander for hundreds upon hundreds of eras with the smallest hope that I might one day be reunited with my loved ones, I don't think I could stomach seeing false copies of them running about during what we know to be their last day. The weight of that grief alone would be too much to bear, particularly watching as loved ones happily went about the very same routine that would end in their deaths, and thus a more anonymous representation would be preferred. It could also be a form of guilt, an unwillingness to let those he loved see how far he's fallen to bring them back. Though given Emet's determination and 'it's not really murder' line in regards to being called out for the countless acts of genocide he's been party to it seems unlikely.

I'm sure the team will come up with a lore reason down the line but for now I do honestly think it was a 'let's not create more work for ourselves' sort of situation.

I would also agree with this since you notice his slouching became worse when he was in the city. Hythlodaeus dialog about the weight/burden while you saw him walk through the city especially hammered down that tone.

It was a heartbreaking scene, but I think it was parallel to the tone in counterpart to us (WoL) he took the task alone because he felt it was his duty (but lot of it was he HAD to do it alone due to the circumstances). Whereas we the WoL had friends and were told that despite our Sin Eater predicament we have friends to help us endure it.