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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That answers two questions in one. Our souls are rejoined, and that means everyone - not just selected special ones.
    There could still be "special" souls. Everyone gets rejoined, but in the case of normal souls (the ones formed from the natural Lifestream cycle), they just gain more Aether (become "denser"). In the case of those whose souls are those of a Sundered Ancient (and therefore do not dissolve into the Lifestream), they gain another piece of a specific soul, rather than just more generic soulstuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    He is doing whatever he believes necessary to bring them all back, but seriously. The alternative to the idea that it doesn't count as murder is that it does. There's no way he would have been able to avoid going insane under that reality.
    I agree with this. He probably has a mantra he repeats to himself, every time he feels himself starting to form an attachment to one or more of these pitiful, ephemeral beings: "They aren't truly alive, they aren't real. Things will be better when they are whole - better for THEM, even. This is for the good of us all..."

    Especially NOW; the sunk cost fallacy is STRONG. To stop now would be unthinkable. Even if they were willing to acknowledge the murders they've committed, if they were to cut things off all those murders would have been in vain, cruel sacrifices for no purpose. Eight worlds full of life extinguished, and that doesn't even include the horrendous loss of life on the Source with each Rejoining. They may feel they OWE it to those lost to see things through - and each new murder is another obligation on the pile...
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    What is Bozja Citadel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    What is Bozja Citadel?
    Bozja Citadel was where the Garlean's first attempt to contact/use Dalamud, and it fired a beam that destroyed an entire city and killed Cid's father. Found this on a reddit post, but it's taken from EE1.

    The more interesting part to me is that Bozja is located in Othard, and many people thought it was going to be related to Stormblood's story because of it. Some people were debating on if the Burn itself was actually the remains of Bozja where could be feasible but I think that's more of the focus on repeated primal summoning which is also what the dungeon briefing for 4.4 says as well.
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    Last edited by Noitems; 08-24-2019 at 01:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Bozja Citadel was where the Garlean's first attempt to contact/use Dalamud, and it fired a beam that destroyed an entire city and killed Cid's father. Found this on a reddit post, but it's taken from EE1.

    The more interesting part to me is that Bozja is located in Othard, and many people thought it was going to be related to Stormblood's story because of it. Some people were debating on if the Burn itself was actually the remains of Bozja where could be feasible but I think that's more of the focus on repeated primal summoning which is also what the dungeon briefing for 4.4 says as well.
    As mentioned in the Gunbreaker questline, it's also the former capital of a Hrothgar clan. The level 80 GNB quest gives hints that it will be one of our visitable cities in the next expansion, as survivors are planning on rebuilding it.
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    Last edited by RyuDragnier; 08-24-2019 at 04:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Bozja Citadel was where the Garlean's first attempt to contact/use Dalamud, and it fired a beam that destroyed an entire city and killed Cid's father. Found this on a reddit post, but it's taken from EE1.

    The more interesting part to me is that Bozja is located in Othard, and many people thought it was going to be related to Stormblood's story because of it. Some people were debating on if the Burn itself was actually the remains of Bozja where could be feasible but I think that's more of the focus on repeated primal summoning which is also what the dungeon briefing for 4.4 says as well.
    Just need to clarify this a bit:

    The Burn was not created by repeated primal summons. It was created when the Allagans used an aetheric siphon (known today as the House of the Crooked Coin on the Azim Steppe) to cut off the circulation of aether to the region, excavated the aether-starved land, and launched it into the sky; those bits of land are what we know as Azys Lla. The siphon was never turned off after the fall of Allag, creating what came to be known as the Burn. That it was the result of repeated primal summons is simply something Solus (a.k.a. Emet-Selch) lied to the Garleans about to excuse justify the "eternal conquest" mentality he imparted them with.

    The rest is correct - Bozja Citadel was the testing site of the Lunar Transmitter, which destroyed the city and killed Midas nan Garlond. The GNB questline also reveals that it was a major Hrothgar city.
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    Oda: Each time there is a rejoining, any living things have the souls rejoined. This is true for everyone equally. The souls get more dense, and potentially more powerful.
    I'd been wondering about that for a while. If after all the rejoinings we of the Source are somehow more complete, more... real, than the people native to the remaining shards.
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    The part about the Ancients make sense. You're recreating the general idea, but details may get lost over time. That and the fact recreating everything to that amount of detail could take quite a strain.
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    A post in General Discussion has a rough but complete transcript now.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-Gamescom-Q-A
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    A post in General Discussion has a rough but complete transcript now.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-Gamescom-Q-A
    I'm glad to see your questions got answered. They were really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    I'm glad to see your questions got answered. They were really good.
    Thanks! I threw a lot of questions at them, so it was good to see a few got though.
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