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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Its not a matter of one being more poignant than the other it was just one of my theories being squashed. I never thought we would be a lover to Emet in any way.

    In the whole the whole not being more poignant than the other that is false both can be as poignant as long as it is written to be so... (my whole crying post was written before I went to sleep).

    I always knew that my theory was just what it was a theory and could be shown to be false. *shrugs* I even admitted as much before. In the end I still want to know who we were back in Amaurot and how we ended up being who we are now. And now I'll say this for a 3rd or 4th time... I hope we start to remember bits and pieces of our original life during the msq.
    Aww when I say incestuous it wasn't meant that Emet and the WoL are lovers I meant that in a lot of TV show universes everyone is too closely related, and extras...are extremely rare. It was nice to have more worldbuilding than just our relation to Emet, and how significant without others being present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Aww when I say incestuous it wasn't meant that Emet and the WoL are lovers I meant that in a lot of TV show universes everyone is too closely related, and extras...are extremely rare. It was nice to have more worldbuilding than just our relation to Emet, and how significant without others being present.
    That is true....

    Though now the more I think about it though the last lines of Emet can now have a more deeper meaning than just the whole dont forget we existed... it can also have been a plea as well for the WoL to remember who he/she was... (ahh the speculations running rampant in my mind.)
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    Finally, SOMEONE posted the Q&A. Is there any more, I hope?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvalonBright View Post
    Finally, SOMEONE posted the Q&A. Is there any more, I hope?
    Yep! I'll be chipping away at it as I find moments to do so until that purple disclaimer at the top disappears. Some of it's tough to make out / format.
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    Oda: Each time there is a rejoining, any living things have the souls rejoined. This is true for everyone equally. The souls get more dense, and potentially more powerful.
    That answers two questions in one. Our souls are rejoined, and that means everyone - not just selected special ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That answers two questions in one. Our souls are rejoined, and that means everyone - not just selected special ones.
    Good to finally have a confirmation on that. But then that means that after the 7th calamity somehow all these souls from the shard just flew over the lands and rejoined with their counterpart. Quite interesting that nobody has noticed something like that?

    Otherwise good to know that some of us were quite right that Hythlo and the WoL are not the same person and that "Ascian" was not the name for all Ancient beings.

    I do wonder why Emet created such imperfect illusions. It would be understandable for the normal shades but why do that for those he counted as friends? Is that a hint that Emet truly does not remember them exactly thus that they too do not have the perfect memory? Or is it just the case that SE did not want to give them faces because its more work? Would have been nice to see that because then we might have been able to see if they have some hints of other races in them or if they have complete new faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I do wonder why Emet created such imperfect illusions. It would be understandable for the normal shades but why do that for those he counted as friends? Is that a hint that Emet truly does not remember them exactly thus that they too do not have the perfect memory? Or is it just the case that SE did not want to give them faces because its more work? Would have been nice to see that because then we might have been able to see if they have some hints of other races in them or if they have complete new faces.
    It could also be taken as a sign of ever present grief. If I was in his position, doomed to wander for hundreds upon hundreds of eras with the smallest hope that I might one day be reunited with my loved ones, I don't think I could stomach seeing false copies of them running about during what we know to be their last day. The weight of that grief alone would be too much to bear, particularly watching as loved ones happily went about the very same routine that would end in their deaths, and thus a more anonymous representation would be preferred. It could also be a form of guilt, an unwillingness to let those he loved see how far he's fallen to bring them back. Though given Emet's determination and 'it's not really murder' line in regards to being called out for the countless acts of genocide he's been party to it seems unlikely.

    I'm sure the team will come up with a lore reason down the line but for now I do honestly think it was a 'let's not create more work for ourselves' sort of situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    On that point, was it confirmed that it is made of his own aether, or is this an inference from it being a familiar (unless that in turn confirms it)?

    It's also worth recalling that whilst fragmented, some souls on the First do still possess the Echo, which could be the case with him. That, plus an unfamiliar fighting style, may have proved enough to temporarily allow him to hold off the WoL... until it wasn't enough.

    He is an interesting character and I am glad they avoided going down the "part Sin Eater" route for him, because I feel it'd cheapen it somewhat as a plot angle, given that it had already been used for Vauthry.
    The A rank Hurracan in Khoulsia is said to be made up of Ran'jit's father's aether, it is exactly the same as Ran'jit's serpent just bigger, this could be due to Ran'jit's father transferring more aether to it as he became a sin eater. So Ran'jit's serpent is just his aether made manifest with his martial style he learned from his father, so yea he truly fought us on his own power with no help which is actually really nice to hear, as it means ordinary mortals can have enough power to stand up to us if they undergo enough training/experience without needing to resort to magical merguffin like the resonant/echo/primal etc.

    Now whether it was a good thing it was a being born on the First rather than the Source that did this is debatable especially given the revelations from ShB that we were 8/14 complete at that point while Ran'ji was just 1/14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    It could also be taken as a sign of ever present grief. If I was in his position, doomed to wander for hundreds upon hundreds of eras with the smallest hope that I might one day be reunited with my loved ones, I don't think I could stomach seeing false copies of them running about during what we know to be their last day. The weight of that grief alone would be too much to bear, particularly watching as loved ones happily went about the very same routine that would end in their deaths, and thus a more anonymous representation would be preferred. It could also be a form of guilt, an unwillingness to let those he loved see how far he's fallen to bring them back. Though given Emet's determination and 'it's not really murder' line in regards to being called out for the countless acts of genocide he's been party to it seems unlikely.

    I'm sure the team will come up with a lore reason down the line but for now I do honestly think it was a 'let's not create more work for ourselves' sort of situation.
    I would also agree with this since you notice his slouching became worse when he was in the city. Hythlodaeus dialog about the weight/burden while you saw him walk through the city especially hammered down that tone.

    It was a heartbreaking scene, but I think it was parallel to the tone in counterpart to us (WoL) he took the task alone because he felt it was his duty (but lot of it was he HAD to do it alone due to the circumstances). Whereas we the WoL had friends and were told that despite our Sin Eater predicament we have friends to help us endure it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Though given Emet's determination and 'it's not really murder' line in regards to being called out for the countless acts of genocide he's been party to it seems unlikely.
    Probably going to slip off the forums again for a bit soon, but want to present the possibility real quick that Emet-Selch had to believe/tell himself that because the alternative is that he's been committing genocide against billions of actual people, all of whom are on some level still pieces of the Amaurotines he loves.

    He is doing whatever he believes necessary to bring them all back, but seriously. The alternative to the idea that it doesn't count as murder is that it does. There's no way he would have been able to avoid going insane under that reality.

    There's room to debate of course, but the "unreliable narrator" possibility is one way to interpret things and puts an interesting spin on his characterization.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    lol I saw them answer the Sabik question and was like "I know at least three people who will now be ecstatic for a month". XD
    Lmao Alleluia I was basically beside byself hyped when I saw that! Month is in fact 100% made. XD
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