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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    How does it not make sense? I can't count how many times I have not been able to group with my friends in XIV because of level difference.
    then you simply didnt Exp after 1.19 and/or dont understand the current Exp-system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    The time it takes to level is irrelevant if you are sitting at 20 now and your friend is 40. Which scenario is better? Wait a few days to play with your friend or sync up and play together now? That doesn't make sense to you?
    Like i said before, it doesnt matter which level you are. You can have Level50 People in your Party and you will still get tons of Exp on lower levels. And no.. Saying you are not able to play with your friends, while the current system allows it, doesnt make sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    then you simply didnt Exp after 1.19 and/or dont understand the current Exp-system.



    Like i said before, it doesnt matter which level you are. You can have Level50 People in your Party and you will still get tons of Exp on lower levels. And no.. Saying you are not able to play with your friends, while the current system allows it, doesnt make sense to me.
    This statement tells me it is you who hasn't xp'd after 1.19 dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    This statement tells me it is you who hasn't xp'd after 1.19 dropped.
    Check my History and you will see i obviously did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Check my History and you will see i obviously did.
    Well then I guess you're just lying or you create your own truths as you see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Well then I guess you're just lying or you create your own truths as you see fit.
    Yea of course, my Lodestone history is lying. O_o

    *facepalm*

    Its simple as it is. There was actually a Thread how you still can do, what you could do pre 1.19a and that is how i PL people. But to say it simple: Let your friends with their lower Ranks tag a Mob and then take em and kill em. Or cant you play with your friends when you are not in the same Party but staying right next to them and fight with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Yea of course, my Lodestone history is lying. O_o

    *facepalm*

    Its simple as it is. There was actually a Thread how you still can do, what you could do pre 1.19a and that is how i PL people. But to say it simple: Let your friends with their lower Ranks tag a Mob and then take em and kill em. Or cant you play with your friends when you are not in the same Party but staying right next to them and fight with them?
    If you enjoy that sort of thing, great. Many do not. And what if the higher level plays a class that isn't suited to power leveling? What if the players think that power leveling is cheesy and nothing more than a director supported exploit that saps the fun out of the game? What if the lower level wants to actually learn to play their class instead of being handed a level 50? What then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    If you enjoy that sort of thing, great. Many do not. And what if the higher level plays a class that isn't suited to power leveling? What if the players think that power leveling is cheesy and nothing more than a director supported exploit that saps the fun out of the game? What if the lower level wants to actually learn to play their class instead of being handed a level 50? What then?
    Well that depends on the Situation, no? If the "higher level" doesnt have a class, which could not PL, maybe some other friend will have? I mean this Thread is beeing really picky about things.. They want Level-sync for a "rare case". Even after the Game was released and through all my classes i ranked up, there were always people i could have level'd with. I just had it once, that i was above my friends and i simply waited for them. It is imo and out of my personal experience a really rare case.

    Exploiting is one thing, PL'ing is another thing. PL'ing was implemented with the personal Note from Yoshi himself, that he want have friends play together and beeing able to play together. The Exploit was different and got fixed in 1.19a.

    If people want to play their class and that is a system i personally prefer, then go out and rank up the "normal way". Start in this Zone -> then that Zone -> then over there -> then over here. At one point you and your friends will have a similiar Rank and can build a Static. Level-sync will lead to a way were people actually dont have to learn their class, when they can stay at a Rank1 Area up to Rank50 by switching out Mules for Level-sync. This happend A LOT in FFXI. This isnt FFXI i know, but in FFXI it was kind of a misplaced System.

    People can play however they want, but to be honest and like i said before. It does not make sense to me, when people tell me they cant play together, due certain circumstances. There is a System which works with PL's. There are "only" 50 Ranks which wont take long to get up ( in case someone have to wait till people caught up ). There are more than 1 Class which people could level up.. and so on and so on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    No one wants to power level, baby sit, and no one want to feel like they are not contributing.
    I actually like pl'ing and to "baby sit". Nothing wrong about it, if you enjoy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    This statement tells me it is you who hasn't xp'd after 1.19 dropped.
    you mean 1.19a where being in a party with someone 11+ levels higher than you gives zero (0) XP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    you mean 1.19a where being in a party with someone 11+ levels higher than you gives zero (0) XP
    Yep that would be the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    then you simply didnt Exp after 1.19 and/or dont understand the current Exp-system.



    Like i said before, it doesnt matter which level you are. You can have Level50 People in your Party and you will still get tons of Exp on lower levels. And no.. Saying you are not able to play with your friends, while the current system allows it, doesnt make sense to me.
    It doesn't make sense because you are one of those people who want to level up fast, and you don't mind the level differences between players.

    A lot of us *DO* care about some toons being godlike or others being gimp. We like playing with similarly skilled and equipped toons. For us the game is a lot more fun like that.

    Your statement above, that method of playing, is horribly boring for me and most people I play with.

    A lot of us are not in a hurry to level and we dont' give a rats ass about leveling. We like adventuring and playing together.

    My friend and I duo and leveling both of our toons to level 50 would ruin the game for us, so that's hardly a solution.

    Its sad that in most MMOs now so many people only care about reaching max level and game designers push it so much. Its a really poor way to design and run a game.

    I don't see any reason why we can't accomodate more than one game style.
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