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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    But Level sync would help create balanced parties as people would all be the same rank. Currently you have your within 5 ranks for party bonus and then your within 10 before SP/EXP loss. So even with a 5 Rank difference the higher party members can be killing things that the lower ones shouldn't and if your extend that to the full 10 ranks then that is a massive gap. Max SP gains are at 10 Ranks above your so with that the lowest member of the party can get max SP gains from mobs that the higher levels can solo easy, that is not balance, thats called power levelling.

    As for level sync isn't needed, I think clearly it is due the complete lack of parties. Threads are always popping up on here because people hate the party system and can not find parties because no one is making them. I even went to the trouble of making a video tutorial to teach people how to use the Party System to try and help people to use it more. True that is due to a lack of content but I still fail to see even if the game was full of content and there were countless things to do, how level sync in FFXIV would be a negative thing.

    Another thing level sync would solve is the within 5 and within 10 ranks we can have for parties they could then scale that back to within 3 or something as already mentioned currently you can have a party of 7 R20 and one R30 and you would only need to kill R30/31 mobs to get full SP/EXP for the lower levels. A R30 can easily kill a R30 mob, so with level sync that huge gap can then be reduced back to normal levels. In Behests people complain about it being easy and also people that are too high joining, level sync solves that too for an R20 Behest they can balance it out so that it would be a challenge for 8 R20's then when people join even if a high rank joins they can sync down to that level as there is bound to be someone around the appropriate rank to sync to. Or they could even scale the mobs automatically once the sync is in place to ensure it is still a challenge for the level they sync to and the amount of party members involved.

    Level Sync has huge potential in this game and people need to get past the flaws that were present in it's design in FFXI. FFXIV by design has none of the flaws that were present in FFXI's Level Sync and it's implementation of it, by all rights FFXIV was made for level sync and frankly I am amazed it is missing.
    You still really haven't stated the urgency or necessity of level sync....
    Why do we need it RIGHT NOW??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    You still really haven't stated the urgency or necessity of level sync....
    Why do we need it RIGHT NOW??
    To assist in playing with friends and giving more options to people to party, in short making the game more fun. Is that good enough for you?

    How about if they add it now then they can make sure all future content is balanced with it. If they add it years down the line like they did with FFXI then they will run into one of the problems that they had with that, and that is that the game wasn't designed with level sync in mind.

    How about if they add level sync the can remove the within 10 Ranks they currently have for the party system and make it within a more reasonable 3 ranks. Within 10 ranks is crazy as the difference between a player and one who is 10 ranks higher is huge.

    Honestly saying it is not needed now is like saying we don't need Chocobo's or Airship's because we have Anima and our feet to get to where we need. Yes we can get there but adding them will make it more fun and the same applies to level sync.

    I could flip that question and ask why don't we need it now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    I could flip that question and ask why don't we need it now?
    You could ask that if it was IN and we were begging to take it out... but right now, the burden of proof is on YOU....

    How many people would use it to play with friends?
    And how many people would use it to do Levinshower as an R20 every day?
    I'm gonna be completely honest, had there been level sync since day one... I'd be at R50 in every war and magic class right now.... And so would many others.. and even fewer people still playing because of that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    You could ask that if it was IN and we were begging to take it out... but right now, the burden of proof is on YOU....

    How many people would use it to play with friends?
    And how many people would use it to do Levinshower as an R20 every day?
    I'm gonna be completely honest, had there been level sync since day one... I'd be at R50 in every war and magic class right now.... And so would many others.. and even fewer people still playing because of that
    Did you even read my post? Obviously not you just read the last sentence, oh well here we go again:

    First I imagine a lot of people would use it to play with friends, why wouldn't you want to play with your friends. Also not just friends but it makes grouping a lot easier as you don't have to wait for people of certain ranks around your to seek.

    Lets see you say doing Leve's at R20 so lets go over that and clear that one up first:

    1 - SP on everything is capped at 10+ Ranks above your rank so if you are R40 and do an R30 Leve you can still use the stars to make the Mob's rank over 10 of an R40 so you would still max SP/EXP from the Leves.

    2 - Even if you took your R40 and synced down to R20 you still would use the star's and the mobs would still be 10+ ranks above and guess what???? You still get exactly the same SP/EXP. Now I know you are going to say "no you don't you get a lot more at R20". Well the reason for that is because between R1-23 you get a bonus applied to you SP/EXP however as your true rank is R40 you would not get that bonus even if you are synced at R20.

    Does that clear that up for you?

    Now about the game being too easy already. Well yes it is and I agree but I still fail to see how Level Sync will change that if anything it will help fix it, how?

    Well with Level Sync added they can remove the "within 10 Ranks" we currently have for the Party System as it would no longer be needed. The "within 10 Ranks" is a completely stupid idea and it is bordering on Power Levelling. If you had a Party of 7 R20's and 1 R30 and you went to kill R35 Hippocerfs the R30 can easily kill that solo meaning all the R20 would get max SP/EXP for doing nothing at all, now that is broken. With Level Sync they can remove the "within 10 Ranks and return it to a more reasonable "within 3 Ranks" this straight away would make Parties more challenging as they wouldn't be able to have the high level there to kill everything for them. The reason they made it "within 10 Ranks" was to allow more leniency so people could play together, with Level Sync that problem is solved.

    Along side that they rescale the mobs, by this I mean if you are R20 and the Mob is R20 then that is an Even Match and would be a challenge. Then they make mobs that are 10 Ranks above impossible to kill solo or even duo, again this makes the game more challenging. Then they rebalance SP/EXP for the Mob's to make it fairer now they are more challenging. Something like 150-200 for an Even Match would be fair I would think as long as it was an actual challenge.

    If they add Level Sync now then they can build all content with it in mind, if they wait 8 years or whatever then they will have one of the problems FFXI had and that is that the content wasn't designed with Level Sync in mind so Mob camps weren't balanced.

    It goes back to the Chocobo/Airship argument. We don't NEED Chocobo's and Airship's to get around as we can get around with Anima and our own two feet, however they would be a great addition to make getting around more fun and quicker so why not add them. With Level Sync we don't NEED it but it would be a great addition to make finding and building parties quicker and being able to play with friends which equals more fun and less time standing around LFG.

    You say if Level Sync was in you would be R50 in every class, would you please tell me how then Level Sync would enable such fast levelling that you can't already do in the game. The only way I could think of is that it would be easier to get a party as you would have a lot more people to pick from thus you would get more SP/EXP.

    You say it will make the game easier, how will it? With Level Sync it will enable SE to do the things I have already outlined to make the game more challenging.

    Anyway I am still waiting for your reasons why they should not add Level Sync as everything I have read so far has been utter tripe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post

    First I imagine a lot of people would use it to play with friends, why wouldn't you want to play with your friends.

    U may didnt notice, but u can get EVERY job up. So if u want to play with a low-rank friend, go switch to a low rank job.

    Dont tell me u want it to play with friends...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alegis View Post
    U may didnt notice, but u can get EVERY job up. So if u want to play with a low-rank friend, go switch to a low rank job.

    Dont tell me u want it to play with friends...
    You are truly unbelievable you pick one thing out of that whole post, are you completely stupid or something ffs. Oh and for the record my LOWEST class out of EVERY job is R25 so no I can't switch to a low level to play with a friend.

    Still waiting for a good reason not to add Level Sync
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    Your main argument is to "play with friends" in all of your posts.
    Thats why i did pick it out.

    And i dont waste my time to read your whole book, you post everytime, because even if i do u still tell me level-sync is good all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    You could ask that if it was IN and we were begging to take it out... but right now, the burden of proof is on YOU....

    How many people would use it to play with friends?
    FYI level sync didn't make leveling faster in ffxi, only smn burn parties but that point is moot. And tons of LS's formed Lvl sync statics to level their jobs. With level sync I got to play with my b/f (x-bf) alot. We duo'ed and had fun. All level sync does is lower the wait time when looking for parties. It should not take a parson 6 hours to locate a party. I much rather parties take like a 5 min wait to join or form 1. It getss old and borong soloing while waiting to join a party, Or waiting ti form one.

    And very few people actually did smn burn, or stuck to same zones.
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