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    Quote Originally Posted by vax View Post
    I see level sync on FFXIV after 5 or more years, not now. Also level sync on xi made terrible players
    Guildleves made terrible players ^^ if they add level sync now they can ensure that all content is balanced for it and future content made with it in mind to stop exploits like Astral Burning in FFXI. Also FFXIV will not have the problems that FFXI had of players with weapons not capped as that system does not exsist in FFXIV
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Guildleves made terrible players ^^ if they add level sync now they can ensure that all content is balanced for it and future content made with it in mind to stop exploits like Astral Burning in FFXI. Also FFXIV will not have the problems that FFXI had of players with weapons not capped as that system does not exsist in FFXIV
    Agreed. I'd like to see them come up with a Level-sync system that would better prevent people from leveling 20-70 in the same spot so that they know how to do their jobs in the higher levels.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Guildleves made terrible players ^^ if they add level sync now they can ensure that all content is balanced for it and future content made with it in mind to stop exploits like Astral Burning in FFXI. Also FFXIV will not have the problems that FFXI had of players with weapons not capped as that system does not exsist in FFXIV
    Spoiled the crap out of players is what it did, but I guess a spoiled player could be considered a terrible player as well.
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    Guildleves made terrible players ^^ if they add level sync now they can ensure that all content is balanced for it and future content made with it in mind to stop exploits like Astral Burning in FFXI. Also FFXIV will not have the problems that FFXI had of players with weapons not capped as that system does not exsist in FFXIV
    Now SE fixed that. Now the exp/sp you get on leve is so low that didn't worth wasting time on that, unless you need marks or some gil.
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    Level Sync for Grind PT's.

    Level Sync for (callable) NPC Companion.

    Level Sync for R25 Dungeon. (optional, not forced)

    Level Sync for "Recommended Level" quests. (optional, not forced)

    Level Sync for LeveQuests (linking only, not for solo)

    Level Sync for Behest.

    Level Sync for future PvP content.

    Level Sync for future PvE content.

    Level Sync for future Company Crafting Quests.

    Level Sync for future AF/Relic gear Boss Fights.

    Level Sync for all content past, present and future that you can/want/have to do with others. (all optional, of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vax View Post
    I see level sync on FFXIV after 5 or more years, not now. Also level sync on xi made terrible players
    Incorrect, level-sync did not make terrible players. They were bad before and after it was added. Level-sync just made them stand out more and helped them level.

    Seeing as a player could go 1-50 in the same map right now, level-sync won't change much. Right now in my LS there are 2 45+ members, 5 25-35 and like 15 + 1-24s who end up soloing because we don't have anything their level. Most of them will quit because of lack of grouping.

    I will go as far as saying level-sync is a MUST for XIV's survival in the long run. I got friends coming to try the game. Why should their first experience on FFXIV be a lonely and dull one?

    Answer is simple, they shouldn't have to suffer the monotony of solo grinding when there are people online and willing but lack the mean to sync down.
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    Last edited by Keith_Dragoon; 08-01-2011 at 07:44 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon View Post
    Incorrect, level-sync did not make terrible players. They were bad before and after it was added. Level-sync just made them stand out more and helped them level.

    Seeing as a player could go 1-50 in the same map right now, level-sync won't change much. Right now in my LS there are 2 45+ members, 5 25-35 and like 15 + 1-24s who end up soloing because we don't have anything their level. Most of them will quit because of lack of grouping.

    I will go as far as saying level-sync is a MUST for XIV's survival in the long run. I got friends coming to try the game. Why should their first experience on FFXIV be a lonely and dull one? Rc

    Answer is simple, they shouldn't have to suffer the monotony of solo grinding when there are people online and willing but lack the mean to sync down.
    I agree with this. All I want is to play with my friends and gain normal sp instead of gaining less because my friend is 12 levels above me, which he would be willing to sync down if given the option.
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    I dunno really usually a sync makes the players huddle only in few zones.

    Maybe just keep working on the LFP tools so it's as easy as possible to find a group?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    I dunno really usually a sync makes the players huddle only in few zones.

    Maybe just keep working on the LFP tools so it's as easy as possible to find a group?
    I don't want Level Sync so I can go find random lowbies and party with them. I want level sync because I want to be able to party with a lower level friend on the class of my choosing. I don't want to have to switch to a new class just because they are, or if they need a tank I can go help them out because they can't find one.
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    SacredDawnFC.enjin.com
    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    While I understand the merit of people who criticize XI's leve sync as breeding "bad players" (A notion that SE answered by giving us abyssea, a breeding ground for even less skilled players =P) the scenario in XIV is drastically different than XI.

    This is likely to change in the future but since casual content is at least acknowledged in this game, the ability to solo as a viable method of leveling will most likely always remain. At the current state of affairs a good handful of people [i[do[/i] solo to 50. Well this poises a very naughty problem once you reach 50 and decide to do group-based endgame. The way you play your chosen class may change drastically once you are in a party; and players who have been predominantly soloing/duoing to 50 will be completely unaware to how to play in a group. For this reason I am in favor of a type of "level sync" because it will make 1-49 partying more viable and will at least expose most people to the party environment so come actual group content at endgame they won't be completely unfamiliar with it. At this point it could only breed better players.
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