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    Gerronuma's Avatar
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    Syngiswerd Wyssmyna
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    Sage Lv 100

    SMN Quests are really difficult after changes

    So I've leveled quite a few classes and have done quite a few battles for job quests recently, and I have to say that the Summoner job quests are by far the most difficult job quests I have ever encountered.
    Ever since they retooled pets to where they couldn't tank, much less even be detected by enemies, a lot of the SMN job quests have become incredibly hard to solo. Take, for example, A Book with Bite. That quest asks you to defeat an enemy that does at least 3000 damage per hit, as well as giving you poison with extremely high potency. You can tell that with this level of damage that this quest needs a tank to distract the enemy while you do the dps. However, since Titan-Egi is no longer considered a tank, you're the one taking the brunt of the damage.
    This makes the quest incredibly difficult, as even the shield you can give yourself is destroyed in one hit. There's also another quest, A Minor Negotiation, in which the enemies are very difficult to kill as well, doing high amounts of damage. While it's doable, it is incredibly hard as well, especially when you hit the search location with three enemies waiting. It is at that point I was reduced to casting pet abilities while spamming Physick. It's just really difficult and frustrating, and this is the only time I've run into issues with job quests.
    Am I the only one who is running into problems like this and I should "git gud", or is this an actual problem that others have run into? Please let me know, and also give me some tips, if you have any, that I can use to defeat this enemy, because I'm going to have to put leveling my SMN on hold until I can actually defeat this quest.
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    Lorrie Laborn
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 68
    No you’re most definitely not the only one. Joined just pre-ShB and I was leveling SCH and SMN. After ShB hit I could do the 60-70 SCH job quests just fine at the level they show up. SMN? Got annihilated and wondered what the hell was I supposed to do. Kept bashing my head against it, using foods, potions, and healer stance Chocobos and just barely beat the first book enemy. Next job quest, got absolutely destroyed by the other summoners Egis. At which point I just quit and leveled SCH/SMN to 70 and got overleveled gear so I could just power through it.
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    Marc-Vigar's Avatar
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    Marc Vigar
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    The change was for better, old Titan-egi couldn't even keep aggro on enemies so it was useless at high level. Now you have an oGCD shield every 30 seconds with 2 base charges, unless you are overlapping and wasting the shields you should be fine in any solo content.
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    The content was made with titan-egi tanking in mind. And bane only spreading dots to 3-4 nearby enemies, and a lot of other things that are different now. Yeah titan would lose aggro but but it was enough for him to hold targets you weren't actively ruining, or at least distract them during your setup period.

    They really need to either lower the amount of enemies in some of them, lower the damage or add a warrior npc to tank for you like the SCH job quests has. Actually you do have a warrior to tank for some but he's not part of the fights usually
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    Marc Vigar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    The content was made with titan-egi tanking in mind. And bane only spreading dots to 3-4 nearby enemies, and a lot of other things that are different now. Yeah titan would lose aggro but but it was enough for him to hold targets you weren't actively ruining, or at least distract them during your setup period.

    They really need to either lower the amount of enemies in some of them, lower the damage or add a warrior npc to tank for you like the SCH job quests has. Actually you do have a warrior to tank for some but he's not part of the fights usually
    I've done all SMN quests from level 30 to 70 with the new Titan-egi and I've had 0 problems, as well as other solo content with moderate/high difficulty.

    As a squishy magical DPS you are not suposed to pick up 5 enemies and AoE them down, that was left in the past.
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    Aria Elunia
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    Maybe it's the gear problem.
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    Raveen Raines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar View Post
    The change was for better, old Titan-egi couldn't even keep aggro on enemies so it was useless at high level. Now you have an oGCD shield every 30 seconds with 2 base charges, unless you are overlapping and wasting the shields you should be fine in any solo content.
    The change was for the better at max level. The doesn’t change the fact that all of the pre 80 content was designed with us having a pet that can tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    The change was for the better at max level. The doesn’t change the fact that all of the pre 80 content was designed with us having a pet that can tank.
    It seems you missed my previous response.
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    Onmyo Shugo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar View Post
    I've done all SMN quests from level 30 to 70 with the new Titan-egi and I've had 0 problems, as well as other solo content with moderate/high difficulty.
    As someone leveling SMN right now, can I ask how you handled lvl 60 and 63 job quests? I managed to handle 60 by a good 20min of kiting the enemy around a boulder and DoTing him to death. This strategy may not work on this next one (nor is it enjoyable) so I’m wondering what you did in order to better improve my strategy
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    Last edited by odym82; 08-23-2019 at 03:08 PM. Reason: Quest levels

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    Marc Vigar
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    Quote Originally Posted by odym82 View Post
    As someone leveling SMN right now, can I ask how you handled lvl 60 and 63 job quests? I managed to handle 60 by a good 20min of kiting the enemy around a boulder and DoTing him to death. This strategy may not work on this next one (nor is it enjoyable) so I’m wondering what you did in order to better improve my strategy
    Since you aren't talking about anything specific, there are many factors that could make you struggle, like a bad rotation, low level gear, not dodging AoE, not doing mechanics etc...

    What's your rotation like? What ilvl are you? What is killing you?
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