Idiot tanks or am I just bad at healing? :P

[Marc-Vigar]

It's not because there's a WHM in my Profile Pic right now that means that i "mostly" play WHM, how can you presume that?. There's a WHM in my Pic because the last time i loged-out i was helping 2 friends of mine who started playing the game last month with their SB Contents ( Dungeons, Deltascape, Ivalice ) for faster queues since Healers are faster at this moment, and WHM imo are the best for Dungeons since Holy gives a "Hollowed Ground" effect for each pull, and WHM imo are the best for Random Full Party Members stuff because their skills can stack so i don't have to worry about waste MP with Shields as SCH because the another SCH is using Shields too, or another AST use their Cards over mine wasting my CDs for it, and i can prevent any Toxic Healer if they die too much ressing/healing by myself ( what usually happens a lot since they don't know most of mechanics yet ).

So take yours "lols" and "lmaos" away snowflake.

Cool story.

Then as days go by and your profile picture doesn't ever change that means you're still "helping friends". lel

[Wigett]

As a tank i take my lead from the healer, if they tell me i can pull more, i will until then, its just steady pace small packs sometimes the dps sucks and u have to go slow, but I base my pull size and freq. on the healer, and i wait till they tell me they are ready or wanting more. even if the dps tells me. i dont.

[DenzelVilliers]

Cool story.

Then as days go by and your profile picture doesn't ever change that means you're still "helping friends". lel

"My profile pictures doesn't ever change"?, are you sure of that?, because my Pic was RDM since i was leveling him ( and still leveling ), it was DNC before that, and BRD before that, and MCH before that and etc ( by the order i played ).

I usually log-out with a different job that there's not Tank, because usually i do my farm and stuff as Tank at day time, and at night i'm crafting, leveling and/or helping my friends with their contents, they didn't played any day this week since yesterday so i didn't loged-out as healer not even a once because there's nothing to do as Healer, i won't do my content as Healer instead GNB and lost runs for their Achievments.

It's a cool story don't you think?, want to help us with our cool story?, want to met my friends with our cool story?, want to earn Poetic Bonus with our cool Story?, Today at night we are going to do Omegascape and some Dungeons for the first time, do you play on Primal Data Center to join us?, you can help me and my friends all the nights if you want, or also you can join me while i clear my End-Game Contents daily as Tank every day at day time, stuff like Rolettes, Ex Primals, Raids and etc, would be a presure don't have to worry about queues at all because there's a 4th member in our group.

[DenzelVilliers]

Cool story.

Then as days go by and your profile picture doesn't ever change that means you're still "helping friends". lel

Nah, forget my invitation above, i got loged-in my PsVITA right now to be able to check your Character Name/Server ( PsVITA has the same HUD than PC does, while Smartphone you can't even edit your Post and i don't have acess to PC right now ), so i found this:

Your Character: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/25807471/

My Character: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/2234302/

As we can see, you're just a little snowflake troll that don't even got any Tank or Job at Lv80 yet, while i do have all Tanks at Lv80, all Tank mounts except for GNB what i'm working at this moment ( which means at least 1500 End-Game content clears as PLD/WAR/DRK for their 6 mounts, not to mention how many times i played with those jobs before and after such Achievments be made, and stuff like lower level content as well ).

So you're useless to me, by your progress i see that not even Extreme Primals you usually do, and i bet those Horses that you got was doing Unsyn content.

[DenzelVilliers]

Rushing throught storyline and reaching level 80 doesn't make you better in any regard. Join some DF and check the amount of ilvl 400-450 that don't even know the threshold for using AoE skills is 3 enemies (except for DNC). But hey! my DNC is lvl 60 so I must not know what I'm talking about

I never rushed the MSQ, i do play FFXIV for over 6 Years, and yeah, there's people who don't know that -2 Enemies is better Single Target Skills and +3 Enemies is better AoE skills, people like you for example and DNC is not a exception. You shouldn't spam AoE rotation when you fighting against 1 single enemy because it does 1000 Damage Potency ( Windmill, Bladeshower, Rising Windmill, Bloodshower and Fan Dance II ), while their Single Target Rotation does 1250 Damage Potency ( Cascade, Fountain, Reverse Cascade, Fan Dance and Fountainfall ).

Standard and Technical Steps for example are AoE CDs that you must use when is available against single target or not, and many jobs does have AoE CDs like that, PLD does have skills like Circle of Scorn and Confliteor, WHM does have skills like Assize and Afflatus Misery, GNB does have skills like Bow Shock, BLM does have skills like Foul and etc. You shouldn't ignore those AoE Skills because it's CDs apart from their Single/AoE Rotations. So yeah, you don't know what you talking about and i'm tired to give you attention, not going to answer you anymore and block is coming soon, just gonna wait a little bit to make sure you read this last post before it.

The last thing i need in this forum is a useless player that don't know how to talk and have a conversation, who's mocking because don't have any argument to do. And when you going to check his profile is just someone who have nothing, who did nothing, who know nothing, just a baby troll looking for candy.

[Marc-Vigar]

I never rushed the MSQ, i do play FFXIV for over 6 Years, and yeah, there's people who don't know that -2 Enemies is better Single Target Skills and +3 Enemies is better AoE skills, people like you for example and DNC is not a exception. You shouldn't spam AoE rotation when you fighting against 1 single enemy because it does 1000 Damage Potency ( Windmill, Bladeshower, Rising Windmill, Bloodshower and Fan Dance II ), while their Single Target Rotation does 1250 Damage Potency ( Cascade, Fountain, Reverse Cascade, Fan Dance and Fountainfall ).

Standard and Technical Steps for example are AoE CDs that you must use when is available against single target or not, and many jobs does have AoE CDs like that, PLD does have skills like Circle of Scorn and Confliteor, WHM does have skills like Assize and Afflatus Misery, GNB does have skills like Bow Shock, BLM does have skills like Foul and etc. You shouldn't ignore those AoE Skills because it's CDs apart from their Single/AoE Rotations. So yeah, you don't know what you talking about and i'm tired to give you attention, not going to answer you anymore and block is coming soon, just gonna wait a little bit to make sure you read this last post before it.

The last thing i need in this forum is a useless player that don't know how to talk and have a conversation, who's mocking because don't have any argument to do. And when you going to check his profile is just someone who have nothing, who did nothing, who know nothing, just a baby troll looking for candy.

I never said you must use AoE rotation on 1 enemy, I was obviously talking about 2. It's my fault for expecting basic understanding from someone who can only insult.

You seem a bit obsessed with my character profile, take it easy man, you can't judge a book for its cover.

[DenzelVilliers]

I never said you must use AoE rotation on 1 enemy, I was obviously talking about 2. It's my fault for expecting basic understanding from someone who can only insult.

You seem a bit obsessed with my character profile, take it easy man, you can't judge a book for its cover.

Yeah you did, you said DNC was a exception for AoEs in the post you deleted while DNC is not a exception at all for anything, all jobs works the same.

But it's funny to you to say about "expecting the basic understanding from someone who can only insult" when it was you who started to insult me and make joke for what i've said (and i said nothing offensive, it was only you who got hurt because i said that Tank are a easy job, so you came offending me ).

It's way more funny to you to say about "You seem a bit obsessed with my character profile, take it easy man, you can't judge a book for its cover." .... REALLY?, COME ON, REAAAAALLY? ...

- it wasn't you who started and was "obsessed" and "judging the book from it's cover" when supposed many things about me based on the last Job that i loged-out last time i played days ago ( WHM )?.
- implying that i wasn't main Tank because in my profile PIC it was a WHM, like if when you have a main job you can't play with anything else at all?.
- implying that i don't know about Tank because in my profile PIC it was a WHM instead a Tank?.
- implying that i wasn't helping any friends and it was just a lie and a "cool story" based in my profile PIC once more?.
- implying that i rushed the game to get Lv80 based in nothing?.

Well, it's hilarious you saying that when it was you who was judging the others here since the start. But at least my way to "judge" you has WAY MORE accuracy than your way to judge me, after all while you judged many things about me based in my Forum profile PIC from the last job i loged-out in that day, i judged you based in your progression, actual character/jobs you have leveled and stuff like minions and mounts, which can give you a idea about how many time you play the game, how many time you play as a Tank and how many End-Game content you had cleared, where can be checked that i have more Playtime than you, i have cleared most of End-Game content and got at least +1500 Clears as Tank while you have absolutely nothing, not even a Lv80 Tank you had.

So don't play the victim and get offended by someone judge you when you insult and judge that person more than once from the very beggining first.

[Marc-Vigar]

Yeah you did, you said DNC was a exception for AoEs in the post you deleted while DNC is not a exception at all for anything, all jobs works the same.

But it's funny to you to say about "expecting the basic understanding from someone who can only insult" when it was you who started to insult me and make joke for what i've said (and i said nothing offensive, it was only you who got hurt because i said that Tank are a easy job, so you came offending me ).

It's way more funny to you to say about "You seem a bit obsessed with my character profile, take it easy man, you can't judge a book for its cover." .... REALLY?, COME ON, REAAAAALLY? ...

Well, it's hilarious you saying that when it was you who was judging the others here since the start. But at least my way to "judge" you has WAY MORE accuracy than your way to judge me, after all while you judged many things about me based in my Forum profile PIC from the last job i loged-out in that day, i judged you based in your progression, actual character/jobs you have leveled and stuff like minions and mounts, which can give you a idea about how many time you play the game, how many time you play as a Tank and how many End-Game content you had cleared, where can be checked that i have more Playtime than you, i have cleared most of End-Game content and got at least +1500 Clears as Tank while you have absolutely nothing, not even a Lv80 Tank you had.

So don't play the victim and get offended by someone judge you when you insult and judge that person more than once from the very beggining first.

The post was deleted but you have it quoted on your response so there is nothing to hide, you can't find anywhere that I said "you must use AoE on 1 target". I literally said " the threshold for using AoE skills is 3 enemies (except for DNC)" which obviously means 2 targets, otherwise it wouldn't be AoE, it would be ST instead.

Anyways, the reason I originally deleted the post is because I didn't want to continue with this bullsheet discussion, your only arguments so far are "I play tank" and "your character isn't level 80" so I don't wanna lose any more time with you and your continuous insults. One thing is speaking ironically and other very different is calling someone "snowflake", "baby troll", "useless" etc. I never insulted you personally.

This will be my last post on the topic so don't bother to answer me.


Oh and by the way, your profile is still a WHM

[DenzelVilliers]

The post was deleted but you have it quoted on your response so there is nothing to hide, you can't find anywhere that I said "you must use AoE on 1 target". I literally said " the threshold for using AoE skills is 3 enemies (except for DNC)" which obviously means 2 targets, otherwise it wouldn't be AoE, it would be ST instead.

Anyways, the reason I originally deleted the post is because I didn't want to continue with this bullsheet discussion, your only arguments so far are "I play tank" and "your character isn't level 80" so I don't wanna lose any more time with you and your continuous insults. One thing is speaking ironically and other very different is calling someone "snowflake", "baby troll", "useless" etc. I never insulted you personally.

This will be my last post on the topic so don't bother to answer me.


Oh and by the way, your profile is still a WHM

My profile is RDM right now, can't you read?, and what if it was a WHM at pic right now?, can't i play WHM when i want?, i'm not allowed to play WHM if i'm main Tank?, do i need your permit to play as WHM?. Oh please, i play with anything i want, anytime.

My "arguments" are not only that, even why there's no much to argument when the only thing you do is suppose that i don't play Tank because my profile pic at forum was set as WHM, because it was my last job loged-out at that day, offending and making jokes on that. So after i got your Character information here in comparison to mine your "ironically speaking" became a victim speech?, my judge on your progression wasn't fair based on your Character profile while right before that your Judge on me more than once, to claim i wasn't a tank, i hadn't experience to talk about it, i was a liar and everything else, making fun of me, mocking and "ironically speaking" it was fair based on automatic update that's made by our forum profile pic which set up the last job you played?.

Sooooo coherent that i felt sympathetic for you.

[Gneo]

As a tank i take my lead from the healer, if they tell me i can pull more, even if the dps tells me. i dont.

SAME HERE!!
Sometimes I ask in chat right away while everyone's still "in a cutscene" if they want small, medium, or large pulls, and I value my healer's input the most in that.
Other times, I just start with normal pulls and if the healer tells me they can take on more work, we pull more!