Buff/Debuff Overwrite Suggestion

[Acidblood]

While I agree, I think there would still need to be some loss for improper co-ordination (we have chat for a reason); and duration is a much better mechanism than potency (which gets messy very quickly).

One solution could be that overriding a buff adds half the remaining duration of the existing buff to the new buff, for example:
NIN-A does Trick Attack, 3s later NIN-B does Trick Attack; NIN-B's Trick Attack would apply with a duration of 10s + (7s / 2) = 13.5s

This would make it more punishing to override buffs early than late, so communication / co-ordination is still encouraged, but it's not a complete loss if you mess it up.

[KaiBa]

Nin with lower HP uses standard opener. Second ninja eagerly awaits to see if the first nin can perform that. Then presses trick attack roughly .5 seconds before first trick runs out to catch trick on trick damage. Suiton was extended this expansion so it is even easier now.

In SB, you would cast raiton in the opener then have to kassatsu -> suiton inorder to catch trick with your own but only to be absolutely disappointed that the other ninja never applied trick. If you were to use trick attack -> bhavachakra as an opener in a 24 man raid you could count using the timer instead of counting the gcds until your trick was overwritten and adjust accordingly. Although that's old news.

Absolutely no reason to change it. It helps to just say in /p that you would trick 2nd.

[Kahnom]

Try talking to other NiN who’s gonna use first TA.
The more skilled NiN can adapt and do TA later.

[Burningskull]

This wasn't really just about NIN but all jobs that have problems with abilities overwriting preventing them from doing their learned opener or rotation simply cause DF put them with the same job as them.

[AnimaAnimus]

I main dnc on my alt and its easy to just look to see when the other dnc uses their buff. Same with ninja. If you don't want to actually talk to your other dncs or nins, just don't be trigger happy and pay the minimum amount of attn and you should be aok.

It's hilarious when we get 3 dnc in a duty like eden cause I sit back and shake my head as I watch the other 2 dncs both start the fight Technical step. I always wait a moment and sure enough, its never failed, whenever there is more than 1 of us, the other dnc immediately goes into tech step without hesitation, so I always just hold it.

Same can be applied to ninja. Seriously how is this so hard?

[Burningskull]

Seriously how is this so hard?

Some times them doing Technical Step doesn't show up on the party list because of how many buffs they have going.

For Trick Attack there is an option to only show debuffs you apply and some people might have that turned on to make their own debuffs easier to see / manage.

[AnimaAnimus]

Some times them doing Technical Step doesn't show up on the party list because of how many buffs they have going.

For Trick Attack there is an option to only show debuffs you apply and some people might have that turned on to make their own debuffs easier to see / manage.

No but you can literally see 4 really bright and super flashy animations, its seriously hard to miss unless you have it set for everyone to just not display animations at all.

[Burningskull]

No but you can literally see 4 really bright and super flashy animations, its seriously hard to miss unless you have it set for everyone to just not display animations at all.

I have party animations on Show Few just so I can see floor bubbles so I can try to keep mobs or my self in them when I tank. Which is another good point btw. Thanks for mentioning that

[AnimaAnimus]

I have party animations on Show Few just so I can see floor bubbles so I can try to keep mobs or my self in them when I tank. Which is another good point btw. Thanks for mentioning that

Even so you can see the actual animation for dnc at least even with the flashes shut off. If you are not someone who is overwhelmed easily its good to train yourself to be spacially aware instead of just haphazardly hitting buttons like you do on a mobile game. You can't blame the system because it works, its how the user is using the system, or not in some cases. You know what to watch out for, so watch for it.

Combat has already been reduced to a ridiculously simplistic system, especially with this expac we really don't need it simplified even more because a few ppl refuse to pay attn. It's not even a QoL thing, its just an "I don't want to have to look" thing. It may be great to a few, but dang if we keep this up we are just going to be hitting 1 button on repeat.