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    Siete's Avatar
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    Siete Siebenheim
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ValerianA View Post
    So, when you open the character page in FFXIV, you will see ton of primary and secondary stats. Strength, tenacity, direct hit, etc.
    You can see their numerical value, yet these numbers are meaningless without context, without feedback for my character.
    What is my chance to crit? Exactly how much extra damage/healing/dmg reduction do my tanks get from their tenacity? How much damage reduction I gain from my defense values?

    I have never seen this in any other MMORPG. I've been playing them for over a decade, I have high level characters in 5 MMOs and I dabbled in many others, and I can't remember not being able to see such basic, essential info like what is my crit chance.

    I guess there are some fan-made online calculators where I put my stats and see the desired info, but that's kinda my point, I shouldn't have to rely on fan-made third party resources to see such basic stuff.

    Why does it matter?
    - its impossible to make any character/gear optimization, theorycrafting, without being completely reliant on player-made guides.
    What is my best secondary stat? Is this piece of gear with slightly higher ilvl, but lesser amount of materia slots better? Who knows?
    - it can lead to outright wrong choices when gearing up. For example, going by ingame description, Tenacity seems like such a wonderful, all-in-one stat for tanks, and new player might be tempted to stack it as much as possible. Yet when you read any tanking guide, every advanced player will tell you that tenacity is bad and you should stack CRIT and DH as tank.
    - character and gear progression feels much less satisfying in this game compared to other MMOs. Yet "the loot hunt" is one of the main reasons to keep playing MMOs once you've completed the story and hit max level.
    Sure, my lvl80 SAM with rankVIII materias has much more CRIT, DH, DET, than my lvl 68 DNC in Shire gear with V materias, but ultimately this tells me nothing.

    The only stat whose progression you can easily see is Vitality, where you can see your HP increase with each item you equip. Everything else is hidden for some reason. Why? And why aren't more players concerned with this?

    This game?
    Tell me which MMO game currently on going does not.
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Siete View Post
    This game?
    Tell me which MMO game currently on going does not.
    WoW, Rift, GW2, SWTOR, ESO, LA, SW, CoH, NN... heck, even BDO, B&S, Aion, Archage...

    They all have either individually linear stat curves or linear damage growth per stat curves and clearly show their effect per stat.

    Admittedly, some, like WoW, have conditionally trimmed away any of the stats useless to a given class so they don't need longwinded tooltips like those of our primary output stats (especially -- ugh -- Strength), but clarity and transparency are the norm.
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