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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    Lmao wut

    By "channel" do you mean spending time to cast it instead of it going out instantly? Unlike Sacred Soil and Asylum which are both stronger than CU and targeted AoEs?

    You realize that currently even if it is just a buffed Regen without Damage midigation no one would use it still right? The issue with it is that it is insanely weak for the size and restrictions it puts on the AST. If they buffed its heal but kept everything else as is now it still might not be used that often.

    The fact that it requires the AST to position in a good spot and take a full GCD to use effectively (in most situations) AND holds the AST in place means it needs to be buffed. Compare it to Sacred Soil and Aslyum that are used, basically, on CD and there is no way you can say its even close to OP.

    Its best used when it ticks and you can cancel it quickly. But this relies on server ticks and if/when your party gets hit by it.
    You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. I haven’t claimed that Collective Unconscious is OP in its current form. What I’m saying is that the channeling effect doesn’t have much point right now, because you’re never going to channel beyond the initial application anyway. And so the natural conclusion is that they’ll just remove the channeling effect, and turn it into a normal cooldown like Asylum or Sacred Soil, then do whatever to the effects to compensate if necessary.

    I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with the initial application, I’m talking about the feature of holding it beyond that, which doesn’t normally have much benefit because that’s time you could be using on GCDs and Cards. I only suggested removing the damage reduction as a random balancing idea, that doesn’t mean I think it’s too strong as it is. More likely they’d make it the same as Soil/Asylum with exact same effect.

    If CU had some additional effect when channelled, it still wouldn’t be the live up to Sacred Soil and Asylum, because channeling that additional effect would get in the way of GCDs whilst Sacred Soil and Asylum don’t have that restriction, and their additional effects activate regardless. For them to make that feature of holding it for a longer duration worth it, it would have to have a very powerful additional effect (because otherwise you’re better just using normal GCD/OGCD). And since that seems unlikely, developers changing it to be more in line with Asylum/Soil seems the most likely outcome.

    My post essentially said that Collective Unconscious will become more in line with Sacred Soil and Asylum. I’m not sure what the disagreement is about?
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    Last edited by Connor; 08-25-2019 at 11:39 PM.