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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    So reading what you just said (or typed) having both Faeries condensed into 1 Fairy just sounds like the better and more practical move. Unless your telling me that having Eos and Selena at the wrong time is just better somehow. Or that having 1 Fairy thats better then the other is better in some way. Your options are realistically not taken from you, they've been combined.
    Probly the only thing that I know happened to Scholar that I legit feel sorry about is that its DPS DOTS were taken away, that and now you can't directly command the Fairy anymore. When I played, I liked dual casting my book spells and commanding the Fairy at the same time.
    But the DPS options were taken away so that Scholar...a HEALER, could be more Focused on Healing. Obviously this is a HUGE change for Scholar, so it needs adjusting.....this can happen....say it with me....Ill be a broken record ALL DAY and Night.....In Time.

    And if they are still struggling to get Healers fully balanced, I bet that means its not easy.
    Which I could understand, because of the "Unique" styles all 3 have. WHM was left behind for a while because everyone loved SCH and AST so much. They were the Meta. Now they got gutted and now WHM is practically the best now, because it already fits the "Pure Healer" idea they wanna push.
    And once again, they haven't hit the mark, cause now Ast and Sch are suffering like WHM was.
    Its something thats not easily solved.
    They weren't combined. All of Selenes moves were taken away, they gutted her, that's different. No Fey wind, no aoe esuna, no silence. (Which all had a purpose in some sort of content) now shes nothing more than a skin for EOS, so yes, they took away my choice of fairy, just because they didnt want to give selene a kit that was good in any situation like EOS is (even though she was great in most content outside of savage, where healing was very light)
    SCH will never focus on healing more because the game itself is not designed for it, they would have to completely rework the game to fit this idea of "healers need to heal" they stripped SCH of all of its dps abilities, gave it a ton of healing abilities, but I'm still over here hitting the very few dps abilities I have left 90% of the time. That's not even just SCH, AST and WHM are in the same boat, we're all over here just dpsing most of the time instead of healing, because theres not much healing to do. And this isn't as easy as "turn up damage" because the resources we have, we dont have the luxury of healing constantly. Any healer who constantly heals will find themselves running on empty much quicker than one who balances heals and dps. They'd have to redesign toolkits, resources, damage, dungeon designs, raid designs. They'd have to essentially redo the game, and has been proven with ShB, a single expansion cannot change the game at its core, you'd need more than 2 years to change what healers are at their core, imo, just embrace the green dps, give healers something to do in downtime, and a reward for maximizing that down time that isnt more of spamming the same button. As for meta, meta will always be a thing, it may change, but every online game has one. So long as classes offer different things, there will always be a combination of those classes that achieves the goal better than any other combination. Every online game developer has said they want to get rid of meta, but none of them have actually done it. We saw it here, the healer meta is still a thing, just now WHM booted out AST, so that excuse is crap.

    6 years is plenty of time to fix this garbage. How much more time do they need? 6 more years? 20 more years? I know its not an easy solution, but they're not even trying. They're picking the most low effort solutions, the ones where its just "ah, make it all the same" because that's a lot more work than doing checks and balances. Because healers arent worth the effort.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    SCH will never focus on healing more because the game itself is not designed for it, they would have to completely rework the game to fit this idea of "healers need to heal" they stripped SCH of all of its dps abilities, gave it a ton of healing abilities, but I'm still over here hitting the very few dps abilities I have left 90% of the time. That's not even just SCH, AST and WHM are in the same boat, we're all over here just dpsing most of the time instead of healing, because theres not much healing to do. And this isn't as easy as "turn up damage" because the resources we have, we dont have the luxury of healing constantly. Any healer who constantly heals will find themselves running on empty much quicker than one who balances heals and dps. They'd have to redesign toolkits, resources, damage, dungeon designs, raid designs. They'd have to essentially redo the game, and has been proven with ShB, a single expansion cannot change the game at its core, you'd need more than 2 years to change what healers are at their core, imo, just embrace the green dps, give healers something to do in downtime, and a reward for maximizing that down time that isnt more of spamming the same button. As for meta, meta will always be a thing, it may change, but every online game has one. So long as classes offer different things, there will always be a combination of those classes that achieves the goal better than any other combination. Every online game developer has said they want to get rid of meta, but none of them have actually done it. We saw it here, the healer meta is still a thing, just now WHM booted out AST, so that excuse is crap.
    They dont need to rework the game, they need to rework Scholar. Maybe even Ast.
    Lol if you're running low on MP as a White Mage, your doing it wrong XD. Because WHM has always had the best MP management. Before SB they had Shroud, then that got turned into a role ability called Lucid and applied to all healers. And now WHM have Thin Air just...you practically can't run out of MP, especially with good Piety.
    Of course Meta will always exist, Meta is fluid, it will always change, the point is they demolished the Current Meta.
    We can all think X amount of time is plenty of time and castrate the devs all we want...never gonna change the fact that its never an easy fix, no matter how much we wish it, or think it is.

    At this point I guess Healers are in nothing but in a bad state in your eyes, so trying to talk hope into you is just a wasted effort. I'll remain a firm believer that heals can be adjusted. Good adjustments have happened several times already, it can happen again.
    Ill hold on to that hope, as small as everyone deems it.
    Good Day.
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