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  1. #11
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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    All valid annoyances. I'd like to add personal pet peeve of mine which is the fairy (previously placed) does not respawn post dissipation at it's initial location but instead spawns on you in "heel" mode.

    Feels like a missed opportunity there.
    This is super annoying and one of my pet peeves too but it could very well be either by design or just overlooked. I really wanted to focus on bugs and regressions here since I felt like they would be valid items for devs to escalate the priority on (moreso than other points).
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  2. #12
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    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    This is super annoying and one of my pet peeves too but it could very well be either by design or just overlooked. I really wanted to focus on bugs and regressions here since I felt like they would be valid items for devs to escalate the priority on (moreso than other points).
    Idk if it's a bug or not but it seems odd that Seraph (a different entity that replaces the fairy) can come into the field and stay placed in it's position but dissipation (which at least to the eyes) does the same thing seemingly without the Seraph swap, respawns on heel. That just doesn't seem correct for some reason.

    I also agree on the Catalyze not being eaten first, iirc, it was intended to be an ADDITIONAL sheild that only procs under a particular circumstance (critical heal). Shouldn't it be the primary target of damage first if it's a supplemental style shield?
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 08-22-2019 at 07:07 AM.

  3. #13
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    Sesile Kokoro
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I've had issues withy the AOE radius of fairy as well, it may just because I have to manually trigger all the fairy actions now, but it seems like half the party just never gets the group heals.
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  4. #14
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    Tyrannis Rex
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    Posting this here because the content of the healer sub forum doesn’t seem to get passed onto the dev team consistently given how the most recent live letter had the devs saying “what sch issues?” Even though we’ve been flooding the healing forum with these issues since launch day. .
    I agree with your points. Unfortunately posting here isn't going to do any more good than posting in the healer forum. Even if the devs took scholar frustrations seriously and began work to address them, the almost total lack of two-way communication between devs and the community means we will never know until the appropriate set of patch notes are published.
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  5. #15
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    The state of healers right now hurts, especially as an omnihealer main. That no one on the dev team seems to care leaves me feeling so hopeless that I've more or less given up on them every doing right by this role.
    Such a Defeatest attitude.
    Let them know whats wrong, feel free to give suggestions on how it could be fixed.And make use with what you have now till things get looked at.
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  6. #16
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    Jenny Davar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Such a Defeatest attitude.
    Let them know whats wrong, feel free to give suggestions on how it could be fixed.And make use with what you have now till things get looked at.
    Except that we did. There are countless explanations of what’s wrong and suggested fixes in the questions for the live letter. And they’re some of the most upvoted questions outside those in the first few pages, and they had to be later on because we were asked not to post until after 5.05. There are even more detailed explanations and suggestions all over the healer forums, and have been since the changes were announced. Despite this, healers were the only jobs mentioned in the live letter who weren’t either assured that changes were being worked on or that the dev team appreciated the feedback. Instead AST got a “this is how it is now” and the other healers got silence.

    So, yes, I, feeling a little defeatist right now. I really hope that SE does fix healers, but seeing SCH at least has been on a downwards trajectory since 4.0 (in kit of not in QoL), and SE seems completely wedded to the new AST system which many ASTs very much dislike, I have little faith.
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    Jenny Davar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkage View Post
    I agree with your points. Unfortunately posting here isn't going to do any more good than posting in the healer forum. Even if the devs took scholar frustrations seriously and began work to address them, the almost total lack of two-way communication between devs and the community means we will never know until the appropriate set of patch notes are published.
    You say that, but NIN, SAM, SMN, and WAR all got assurances that their issues were being worked on in the live letter. Whereas healers, who had by far the most people inquiring about them, did not.

    I’m really happy for the jobs that are getting the fixes they need, but I wish healers could get the same treatment.
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  8. #18
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    Yeah, this has been a thing since deployement tactics was implemented. If you deploy way too fast, you'll see a "no effect" fest on your screen, which it's infuriating to say the least. Hope they could adjust that.
    I feel like it got worse in this case.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices.

    SCH in general needs some tune ups.
    We really need to talk about Seraph...Not liking how she plays
    or how the faes do... (Why is Eos/Selene a friggin' reskin now?)
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    sch being incredibly dissatisfying to play isn't a bug, it's a feature
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  10. #20
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatstand View Post
    Except that we did. There are countless explanations of what’s wrong and suggested fixes in the questions for the live letter. And they’re some of the most upvoted questions outside those in the first few pages, and they had to be later on because we were asked not to post until after 5.05. There are even more detailed explanations and suggestions all over the healer forums, and have been since the changes were announced. Despite this, healers were the only jobs mentioned in the live letter who weren’t either assured that changes were being worked on or that the dev team appreciated the feedback. Instead AST got a “this is how it is now” and the other healers got silence.

    So, yes, I, feeling a little defeatist right now. I really hope that SE does fix healers, but seeing SCH at least has been on a downwards trajectory since 4.0 (in kit of not in QoL), and SE seems completely wedded to the new AST system which many ASTs very much dislike, I have little faith.
    We're what, on Patch 5.05 and you want to throw in the towel just because Senpai didn't give us enough attention on 1 Live Letter? Geez the Male Viera Thread has Nothing to go on and they over there still got way more enthusiasm for what they want despite it probably not happening. Things can always change and get updated, a handful of times moves were taken out, and then at some point brought back in, like Energy Drain. Healers are at least guaranteed to have something done if we keep being vocal about it, so stop putting your head down about it and acting like nothing will ever be done.
    It won't happen right away, but it can always happen.
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