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    Quote Originally Posted by Schan View Post
    i loled at the picture.

    But the thing is getting people also takes time. they need to be trained up and if i remember correctly finding people with experience in MMORPGs is/was very difficult in Japan.
    I feel like this is one of the things that ends up holding them back when it comes to final Fantasy as a whole, and not just the MMO's (though the MMO's are a big part of this).

    Despite having a global studio presence, including the former Square Soft office and Crystal Dynamics, they've kept their MMO teams and their major product lines as a Shibuya exclusive, and as they've publicly said, this makes it incredibly hard to find people with ANY experience.


    Meanwhile, Blizzard, as an example, gets significantly more cross-production on its persistent games.

    There is a GIANT wealth of MMO talent, from the writing side to the programming side, that dont speak Japanese (not surprisingly, its predominantly English, Korean and Chinese) that Squeenix has 0 ability to utilize.
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    My only issue I've seen is the AF DNC gear on Hrothgar, the upper body chains don't rest on the chest like they should. They are like almost a cage that stands away from the body. Therefore, I had to glam over it.
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    we were warned ahead of time that head gear would not work for most things. i don't know what you were expecting.
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    Apparently Au Ra had all hair+headgear when they came out so logic follows that they would do the same the next time they release new races but instead of waiting/hiring people or resources and doing things correctly they rushed them out to make this result. It's just not ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    Apparently Au Ra had all hair+headgear when they came out so logic follows that they would do the same the next time they release new races but instead of waiting/hiring people or resources and doing things correctly they rushed them out to make this result. It's just not ok.
    They could have also just outright disabled headgear instead of Busting their butts to try and make Some of it work. Im happy that we at least got Something instead of nothing at all.
    And now, they can work on improving it.

    I have faith in this team, despite what goes wrong, ALOT more goes right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I have faith in this team, despite what goes wrong, ALOT more goes right.
    I think this is something a lot of people don't get. I swear to god you all come across as a bunch of Azulas. This one thing goes wrong and it's the end of the world. Complain and they will fix it but it will take time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    They could have also just outright disabled headgear instead of Busting their butts to try and make Some of it work. Im happy that we at least got Something instead of nothing at all.
    And now, they can work on improving it.

    I have faith in this team, despite what goes wrong, ALOT more goes right.
    Yes, those people did on so their off hours, on their own accord and deserve a bonus for it. I had faith in Square Enix in the 2010 and was rewarded with 1.0. Success can lead to arrogance and in business arrogance can lead to failure. There is nothing wrong call out a successful team; it keeps them humble, grounded, and hungry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schan View Post
    I think this is something a lot of people don't get. I swear to god you all come across as a bunch of Azulas. This one thing goes wrong and it's the end of the world. Complain and they will fix it but it will take time.
    Naoki Yoshiida- https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020796/Behind-the-Realm Why FFXIV Failed "The mindset that the solution to every problem could be patched in a future patch." Though he was talking about why FFXIV 1.0 Failed that statement hold true to all game development. Fallout 76, No Man's Sky, Anthem, Mass Effect Andromeda

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    Last edited by Dyvid; 08-23-2019 at 06:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
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    Nobody said they can't be called out. And looking at that picture....how else do you fix a problem other then patching it later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Nobody said they can't be called out. And looking at that picture....how else do you fix a problem other then patching it later?
    I believe the point of that line is more about development and fixing issues BEFORE they go live rather than pushing a buggy mess out the door with the idea you can just patch the bugs later. Obviously some bugs are missed and make it through, but when your testers are telling you about things that are wrong, and you ignore them and push the content out anyways with all those bugs you were aware of still there, well that's a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Nobody said they can't be called out. And looking at that picture....how else do you fix a problem other then patching it later?
    You have the assets available to make sure you have a successful product and you don't release the product until it's ready. The question shouldn't be how you fix the problem other than patching it later but rather why wasn't the problem fixed before Shadowbringers was launched?
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