Is Mch the new Blm?

[Viete]

I was doing Doma Castle with a Mch today, and no matter what i did i could not out damage them at all O_O!! despite being able to pretty regulary out dps my monk friends very often..
(even on last boss went out of my way to ignore mechanics and just focus on dps completely 100% up time and i still lost the dps race lol )
them at all O_O!! im pretty good at sam maybe messing up( like not using my OGCD's the SECOND its available)

the mch gear was also remarkably lower then mine. is sam in a bad spot? is mch op asf now o-o?

[RoyalBeef]

MCH has a pretty sick opener if everything is off cooldown. It even out and eventually reverses the longer a fight goes on. Boss fights in dungeons are short, so it's easier to stay on top DPS than for 10 minute Primal fights.
During Seriyu farm I DPS raced for fun with a SAM, until phase transition I had no problems being above them, but after that I couldn't keep up and they would always come out on top in the end. Unless we had a BLM, they just obliterate everything and everyone lol

[BarretOblivion]

No, MCH has really good AoE now and does pretty decent damage but is 3rd in the DPS charts, once you start raiding MNK is the 2nd highest DPS. BLM is still the king.

[Mhaeric]

DPS rankings are not constant across levels. Many jobs which are at the bottom of the ranking in DPS output during savage raids are amazing at lower levels. Red Mage and Dancer, for example. These two jobs are almost always at the top of the list of DPS in 24-player raids. Machinist and Black Mage both happen to be good at both right now. It all depends on their AoE rotations, and how dependent they are on their higher level abilities to reach their potential.

[Viete]

Ah I see so it sorta depends on the fight and how much time is in between for cool downs and such?, and so if monk is 2nd in raids and Blm is king where is sam?

[Mhaeric]

4th according to fflogs:

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/29/#dataset=95
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...5&dpstype=pdps

[Lastelli]

I don't want to be mean, but if you really had better gear than the MCH on your SAM and you were heavily outdps'd, than you probably have to rethink your rotation. I recommend you take a look at the balance discord.

[Viete]

I don't want to be mean, but if you really had better gear than the MCH on your SAM and you were heavily outdps'd, than you probably have to rethink your rotation. I recommend you take a look at the balance discord.

thats why i thought it was odd my rota is the mathematical optimal rotation >.< thus my confusion...

[Drayos]

It could be a problem in several places really. SAM is higher dps on logs tho. But yes I’d recommend looking into the balance discord, they will provide you with guides which will help u out.

[Myon88]

If by blm you mean, 'does barely more rdps than its ranged counterparts', and 'doesn't even beat drg and mnk in personal dps despite being a selfish job' blm , then I guess yes, mch is the new 'blm'.




Low level content on the other hand is a different story. Job restructuring and potencies never account for how the job will play at low levels, so it's not uncommon for things to be unbalanced there. When red mage came out, it was the king of low level content because no other job had spammable 300 potency gcds as early as satasha. Jobs like dancer, machinist or drg are now in that position because their post-Shadowbringers potencies are way out of line with what you would expect to see at low levels.