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  1. #101
    Player
    Ayuhra's Avatar
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    Palace of the Dead
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Leveling an alt right now with crafting and Black Mage to see if BLM clicks better than it did when I played it on Ayuh'ra.

    Turns out no, but it's comically easier with an alt that already knows where to stand.

    So far it seems like the only classes that HAVE clicked with me are Dancer and Bard. Might try Machinest soon on my main here.

    Aiming classes seem to be my jam.
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  2. #102
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Personally its not just the positional (which are easy on say dragoon or ninja, w.e) but it's the everything about it combined just gets to be like.. one of these mechanics is the straw breaking my back and I'm not "clicking" with it. Dot, positional, chakra, forms + form shifting + form ignoring + form pausing, critical form buff pattern, gilded lightning + gilded lightning consumption.
    You make it sound harder than it actually is.

    GCD single target rotation is pretty much just Dragon Kick (side) -> Twin Snakes (side) -> Demolish (back)/Snap Punch (side) -> Bootshine (back) -> True Strike (back) -> Demolish (back)/Snap Punch (side).

    That's it, you just use Demolish (back) if you need to refresh it, otherwise you Snap Punch (side). Form Shift is only there to help you start with Demolish or to help keep your Greased Lightning stacks up if you can't hit the boss for whatever reason. Just doing the combo automatically takes you through the 3 forms. Anatman (form pausing) is pretty useless atm outside of a specific opener, so it is not really used. Tornado Kick (which uses GL) is also pretty useless.
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  3. #103
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    Zeonx's Avatar
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    Character
    Zeon Darksol
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Dark Knight-

    I go over cousins house sometimes he plays it and he complains that the job even after revamp that it still doesn't cut it he prefers Paladin.

    He basically said that the Job should of been a DPS that, that in shadowbringers 2 moves are basically the same 2 just upgraded its cool it summons a shadow clone but it just doesn't seem like a very good tank class people will probably say oh its great but listen to the healers all the time say great its a dark knight have to heal double time now just tells me that it should of been a DPS.

    not just my cousin ive heard it in partys like uh oh dark knight.

    as for me I don't like ninja I gotta combo jutsu I don't think from what I am told I havent tried it but doesn't seem like I would like something like that and to remember the combo's would seem like a hassle.
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    Last edited by Zeonx; 08-22-2019 at 06:25 PM.

  4. #104
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    Miminming's Avatar
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    Character
    Arclest Aura
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    Belias
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    BRD i find some motion kinda ... not my type,
    especially when shooting while walking... yes thats the only reason...
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  5. #105
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Character
    Fhaerron Kobayashi
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    MNK.

    It's much better now with 4th GL and Earth's Riddle, but I still just don't really like the playstyle and feels cluncky to me.
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  6. #106
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Character
    Dusk Himmel
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Monk blm and Bard
    Aesthetically love these jobs and Blm one of my favorite jobs in the franchise

    But just not for me gameplay wise
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  7. #107
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    Machi_Machiavelli's Avatar
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    Character
    Tiberius Caesar
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    All of them. I'm too use to their ffxi counterparts.
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  8. #108
    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    You make it sound harder than it actually is.

    GCD single target rotation is pretty much just Dragon Kick (side) -> Twin Snakes (side) -> Demolish (back)/Snap Punch (side) -> Bootshine (back) -> True Strike (back) -> Demolish (back)/Snap Punch (side).

    That's it, you just use Demolish (back) if you need to refresh it, otherwise you Snap Punch (side). Form Shift is only there to help you start with Demolish or to help keep your Greased Lightning stacks up if you can't hit the boss for whatever reason. Just doing the combo automatically takes you through the 3 forms. Anatman (form pausing) is pretty useless atm outside of a specific opener, so it is not really used. Tornado Kick (which uses GL) is also pretty useless.
    I mean I could say that about any job someone puts here lol. People who have problems with Mudra when I feel they're fine. Summoner rotation isn't that hard (lots of oGCD now though lol). :P Of course I do actually know why people have problems with it (at least subjectively), just that it could be an example of simplifying people's lack of clicking with a job to a "no you're wrong".

    Thread is about what doesn't click and monk's mechanics don't click for me. Just reads as noise. That said I'm sure if I read guides or followed your tips it could be come less noise-y but that's also why I said I don't really care for the theme of monk so I have less interest to fix any misunderstandings I might have.

    Like playing RTS and having to git gud by learning macros and some of the faster paced but not really that complex strategies to respond to the situation faster. Some days I'm just like "no thanks", not learning that as it's above my concern to enjoyment ratio (I ended up learning most of it though, playing SC/WC for years but it wasn't the first year that I cared lol). Which would be why monk is my lowest level, I don't want to play a job I feel like I'm playing poorly.

    I was only replying to that other person because it seemed people couldn't fathom why monk was seen in such a way. Monk reads like metal to someone used to slow country, I think lol. But being a person who listens to metal and people just say it's noise of course I don't hear just noise but I can understand why to them it's close to just pure static .

    So now you've added info on the class so I might just play it a bit more because I've accidentally learned the job lol (GREAT THANKS! ;P) but on the other hand my point on what you're responding to stands. I was making a subjective reason why it feels like noise and "no thanks", not an objective statement the monk is the hardest or whatever. Ninja hardest if your internet sucks, etc etc. Subjectively monk doesn't click and that was the whole point, since I was responding to someone who was having difficulty imagining why there was so much monk here. Monk is the metal to non-metal listeners (not saying everyone has the this/same issue with monk of course lol). If you listen to "metal" or learn to like it, monk I'm sure is easy and isn't actually that difficult and is just more intimidating than it really is - I could agree/imagine that's true.

    Still.. Subjectively, the job doesn't click (yet- not saying it wont, especially if I'm reading tips on accident lol).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-23-2019 at 12:18 AM.

  9. #109
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    armandojc3's Avatar
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    Character
    Apoc Baldr
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    All healers, they are just not fun for me.
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  10. #110
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Aurora Vlondett
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    AST for me. I've slowly come to the conclusion that the timing on spellcasts is just so weird to me compared to every other caster. I have similar issues with RDM after Dualcast, but not to the extent that AST throws me off.
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