Stuck on Quest: Acht-la Ormh Inn

[Nanami_Naniwa]

It wasn't that hard at the beginning of ShB because most people who played are familiar with basic mechanics and their class. However, lately a lot of Players (who assumingly only know how to buy a skip potion from the mogstore) leveled up and have major issues with this fight. I ended up there several times with Trial roulette (probably because it is in such a high demand right now).
And as a good mentor I try to be, I explain the fight over and over and over again to all the six sprouts, who are there with me. I set up marks, I tell them to stand in puddles, to stack together with stack marker, to tank the adds and to not face Titania in the raid for a killing spree.
So... besides the whole DPS issue and the enrage timer.... I've seen it all... Tanks not caring for adds, stack makers with only four people, always at least one puddle where noone is standing.... And I'm patient. Most of the time we are doing this for 40 minutes straight with NO progress whatsoever... I don't mind a wipe or two or three. But if people don't adjust - especially after I'm telling them what went wrong and how to avoid this and you are still on P2 and can't get past the adds... Please, don't blame me if at some point I vote abandon.

Looking for a PF group to help you out would be much easier at this point. I don't think that Titania needs adjustments - I just think that the skip-potion-community finally realizes that mechanics are something you should start to do.

[Communion]

Most over-tuned trial in the game. Now that most of the advanced players have moved on from MSQ, it's almost impossible to complete. Wipe after wipe after wipe after wipe after wipe. Hours spent queuing. Repeated soul crushing disappointment. I've actually given up on it and will leave my MSQ on my alt Kungpao Kitty never to be completed. Got lucky with Kitty Punch, but if this was the first time going through it, I'd probably just let my sub go and move on to some other game.

[Rilifane]

I get that you're frustrated because you had really bad luck and it cost you a weekend but Titania isn't overtuned.
Most of the mechanics are self-explanatory: you see an aoe marker, you get your butt out of there. You see various circles appear, you stand in the last one spawning and move to the safe zone as soon as the first blew up, which everyone has already seen during the Shiva and Tsukuyomi trial. The one with the stack up marker should stand in a puddle but even if that fails, decent healers can heal through such a fail because it's not a wipe. It's a ton of unneccessary damage but managable.
The only thing that needs to be done correctly is that everyone switches to whacking the adds the moment they spawn and that can be softened by using LB on them.
When I did it for story progression dps was definitely on the low side and we had a lot of people failing at the aoes so both my co healer and I spent the majority of our time healing with barely time to dps but we passed the dps check.
All Titania requires is for 8 people to not be semi-afk. There only 3 things aside from the usualy dodging people need to do: stand in the puddle with the marker, switch to adds asap, move to the safe zone during frost rune.
You can even eat one hit from the frost rune and survive (unless you've already been really low), it's just running around like a headless chicken that gets you killed.
I'm not saying it's faceroll-level: MSQ Ifrit. But it IS perfectly doable for a full group of 73s with level-appropriate gear and without relying on healer dps.

[Mhaeric]

The one with the stack up marker should stand in a puddle but even if that fails, decent healers can heal through such a fail because it's not a wipe. It's a ton of unneccessary damage but managable.

The correct way to do this so the least amount of damage is taken is to have everyone but the main tank stand in the last circle to spawn just outside of the inner circle. Once the inner circle goes off, the entire stack moves forward into the inner circle a couple steps to soak the stack together while taking no damage at all from the circles. If the main tank stacks with the party during this it is very possible they'll cleave the stack with the boss's frontal cone attack so they'll need to pick a different circle other than the one the party is gathering in.

[Rilifane]

The correct way to do this so the least amount of damage is taken is to have everyone but the main tank stand in the last circle to spawn just outside of the inner circle. Once the inner circle goes off, the entire stack moves forward into the inner circle a couple steps to soak the stack together while taking no damage at all from the circles. If the main tank stacks with the party during this it is very possible they'll cleave the stack with the boss's frontal cone attack so they'll need to pick a different circle other than the one the party is gathering in.

Huh?
I think you got it wrong... What you quoted was the the flame run/ water puddle mechanic where you stack up in a puddle.
The frost rune, which you were talking about is a different mechanic. That's the Shiva/ Tsukuyomibstyle mechanic I mentioned.
So...not really sure what was wrong with what I said. I think you just got me wrong? Not sure though.

[Mhaeric]

Huh?
I think you got it wrong... What you quoted was the the flame run/ water puddle mechanic where you stack up in a puddle.
The frost rune, which you were talking about is a different mechanic. That's the Shiva/ Tsukuyomibstyle mechanic I mentioned.
So...not really sure what was wrong with what I said. I think you just got me wrong? Not sure though.

You put those two mechanics in the same line so it sounded like you were saying that the person with the yellow stack marker that goes off during the frost rune attack should soak up one of the frost rune circles. I can see now you meant those to be separate lines like you separated the rest of your post.

[Rufalus]

Maybe it's just a Primal datacenter thing and/or unlucky weekend. On Chaos I see more clears than abandons on this trial. Rate of maybe 15% of groups that cannot pass it, although it's quite common to not one-shot if there's a bunch of first-timers. Once people have seen what happens and don't die to aoes then the dps check is usually met. I think these kind of trials get the echo added to wipes after they've been in the game a while so it will be indirectly nerfed and also as it gets older you're more likely to be partied with roulette people synced down to the maximum gear level who have experience.