Stuck on Quest: Acht-la Ormh Inn

[Frizze]

I mean, im sorry you had an issue clearing this trial. Ive heard a few people mention its difficulty, but ive personally seen not witnessed it. My story clear happened fairly easily(we came close on the add phase DPS check, but the rest was smooth), and anytime ive wound up there via the trials roulette the fight has gone fairly smoothly. I would tell you(based on past experience) that the 5.1 patch will likely expand the echo buff for these instances making it easier for players later on to fail their way to a clear. Not sure what else they can or will do. In general though, the advice from Moomba and Stepjam is solid. If you find yourself getting bad groups and struggling, put up a PF listing. There are plenty of experienced players that are happy to help newer players catch up, or at the very least people who will run anything for a new-player bonus(i know im guilty some weeks).

[Frizze]

Bismark(lvl 57) was the hardest trial in heavensward, not because it was poorly tuned but because people couldnt pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.
Susano'o(lvl 63) was the hardest trial in stormblood, not because it was poorly tuned but because people couldnt pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.

You might find yourself thinking, nidhogg and shinryu had the most complaints for a nerf at release and both were more mechanically complex fights for their expansions. And this is all true. But once a certain percentage of the population got the fights down these complaints mostly ceased. Rising i-levels helped smooth the fights out, but the complaints settled down before this could have been a factor. Titania seems destined to be this expansions trial that will still challenge some players 4 patches from now when it pops up in a roulette, because for whatever reason they wont be able to pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.

[Vidu]

Bismark(lvl 57) was the hardest trial in heavensward, not because it was poorly tuned but because people couldnt pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.
Susano'o(lvl 63) was the hardest trial in stormblood, not because it was poorly tuned but because people couldnt pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.

You might find yourself thinking, nidhogg and shinryu had the most complaints for a nerf at release and both were more mechanically complex fights for their expansions. And this is all true. But once a certain percentage of the population got the fights down these complaints mostly ceased. Rising i-levels helped smooth the fights out, but the complaints settled down before this could have been a factor. Titania seems destined to be this expansions trial that will still challenge some players 4 patches from now when it pops up in a roulette, because for whatever reason they wont be able to pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.

Preach it!

The most trouble I had with Titania NM was during a run where people didnt understand the simple mechanic of standing in a water puddle with the stackmarker - despite it being explained. They didnt get it the second time said mechanic happend either - despite it being explain again.
The problem with this fight - as with the other MSQ-trials - is never that its to difficult or asks to much... its people who struggle with something simple as standing in a specific spot...

[Allooutrick]

As others have stated, the trial is absolutely feasible. I was one of those people who did nothing with my weekend but play this game at the early launch of shadow bringers. My first party wiped 4 times before clearing, each time getting better. The second time we wiped twice. All of this was with random players. I did it again a few weeks ago and people bailed immediately. We still cleared after one wipe.

It's unfortunate that you've had such terrible luck but it's one of those fights where all players involved are tested and expected to perform well. Clears will get more consistent as more people become familiar with it.

[Stepjam]

I already mentioned my suggestion. The dps check is too high for fresh 73's using level 72 gear.

It really isn't. I cleared it a few days after launch with randoms without too much difficulty.

And as I said, you can use a limit break to make it smoother if you are worried about making the check. LB can be used for more than emergency rezing and free damage. Use it as needed.

[Tsunami]

It really isn't. I cleared it a few days after launch with randoms without too much difficulty.

And as I said, you can use a limit break to make it smoother if you are worried about making the check. LB can be used for more than emergency rezing and free damage. Use it as needed.

They key word here is "after launch". I suppose the majority of your group was in high end gear from the previous expansion. I am what you may consider a casual. I run through the content, and end sub till the next expansion. I don't stick around to grind out the highest of gear and I suppose there are also more like me that just recently came back and we are entering this level 73 dungeon with just the recent quest gear. I don't believe it is tuned to the quest gear, maybe closer to the high end gear of the last expansion so those entering it for the first time now are probably struggling.

People were literally leaving in hordes. I can not stress enough that I would sit in a queue for 20 minutes, enter this dungeon and literally just stand there for 15 minutes waiting for the counter to countdown and watch people leave without ever pulling. And when they did pull, there was an immediate exodus after we wiped. Someone mentioned something earlier about NA and EU servers, I am on NA.

[Frizze]

They key word here is "after launch". I suppose the majority of your group was in high end gear from the previous expansion. I am what you may consider a casual. I run through the content, and end sub till the next expansion. I don't stick around to grind out the highest of gear and I suppose there are also more like me that just recently came back and we are entering this level 73 dungeon with just the recent quest gear. I don't believe it is tuned to the quest gear, maybe closer to the high end gear of the last expansion so those entering it for the first time now are probably struggling.

You seem stuck on the idea that this makes a big difference. Lets do a quick item search. There are 3 ilvl 400 shirts in the game for BLM. You have the one from the last set of savage raids. You have this one which is from the last tome set after you upgrade it. And finally theres the one that comes from the level 73 dungeon you fight before this trial. Theyre the same, but with different sub-stats(and the new one actually has the set i would want most, so much for the old raid gear). If we look at the next tier down, there are 6 sources for ilvl 390-395 shirts. You have two from eureka(arguably the best because they have more materia slots), one from the last alliance raid, an un-augmented tome shirt, an augmented crafted shirt from the last tier*, the drop from the level 71 dungeon you recently cleared, and the crafted 395* that you got in a quest crate(but as a crafted item, anyone with the appropriate skill can just crank out more). The difference in stats here from 390 to 400 is 20 int and 10 defense(the 395 sits halfway in between). So even if they tuned it assuming that the players would have top stormblood class gear, that gear is essentially the same strength as the stuff youre getting in the 2 previous dungeons and from the quest crates. And honestly, i wouldnt be surprised if its actually tuned lower then that. The game requires you to have ilvl 360 to complete the last stormblood duty. If i had to make a bet, id bet that they tested it closer to 360-370 then they did to 400. Gear isnt the issue for most, its the people who cant follow a 1 2 3 rotation, get hit by every aoe, dont grasp mechanics like stacking(or tricky ones like "stand in the puddle during the fire attack"), and die constantly. Not lack of gear, lack of skill.

*Crafted comparisons are using the HQ version of the item, not the nq. This(the hq) is the version that comes from the crates.

[Stepjam]

I had the scaevan gear, which you can currently buy with poetics rather easily now.
And if you had 395 gear, thats a 5 ilvl difference which is not that big in the scheme of things.

[Stepjam]

Also I want to add that Titania is not comparable to Ex and Savage content. It really isn't. All it has is a dps check that requires players to know their rotations and not be asleep at the wheel. Not too much to ask for 3 expansions in.

I'm sorry if you had that many disconnects and failed parties, that really sounds like bad luck. But there's nothing wrong with the fight itself.

[Vnolan]

Also I want to add that Titania is not comparable to Ex and Savage content. It really isn't. All it has is a dps check that requires players to know their rotations and not be asleep at the wheel. Not too much to ask for 3 expansions in.

I don't think that Titania needs adjustments - I just think that the skip-potion-community finally realizes that mechanics are something you should start to do.

I've encountered melee DPS in Inno EX (meaning they beat Titania NM) that don't use DoTs. Carries will always be a thing. The content doesn't make players better and only shifts the burden onto others.