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    Malek Tsunami
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    Stuck on Quest: Acht-la Ormh Inn

    The quest states to use the Duty finder to confront Titania in the Dancing Plague. I lost count after 8 or 9 queues. If people don't drop immediately on entering, they wipe once then do a vote to abandon. I've just spent 6-7 hours literally just re-queuing over and over. I am unable to advance in my quests at this point. And since it is a main story line, I am assuming I will be unable to progress and should just go play another game at this point. Am I correct,or missing something?
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    You could try recruiting in Party Finder. Hopefully you'll get some patient folks willing to help out as opposed to DF which will likely give you people hoping for a fast roulette.
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    That sounds like really bad luck. As Moomba said, try party finder if you keep having bad luck, be sure to mention its your first clear to attract people for wonderous tales
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    After two days of chain queues I have finally passed this obstacle. These groups were absolutely atrocious. You had some groups that would zone in and literally not say a word or do anything until the counter reached the 45 minute mark and they would all disappear. You have groups that would do I pull, then all leave. You had groups that would just drop the moment they entered the instance. And there was always that one person complaining that the rest of the group was not over a 400 ilevel and the other one complaining about how he was doing over 75% of the groups DPS.

    I don't know how this instance was tuned, but it was not done with fresh 73s still using level 72 gear at 395 ilevel. Mind you this is a level 73 instance. Complete trash. Would not recommend. I was resigned to cancel my sub over the frustration of this quest at the end of this day if I did not have any progress. I have no interest of paying a sub just to sit in queue for hours while people move in and out of groups. #entireweekendwasted

    Just to add. As the players were just jumping ship at the mere sight of this place it tells me that this is a very common issue for a lot of people. Who is asleep at the wheel of the development team that they have not taken any action whatsoever to fix this?
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    I mean, im sorry you had an issue clearing this trial. Ive heard a few people mention its difficulty, but ive personally seen not witnessed it. My story clear happened fairly easily(we came close on the add phase DPS check, but the rest was smooth), and anytime ive wound up there via the trials roulette the fight has gone fairly smoothly. I would tell you(based on past experience) that the 5.1 patch will likely expand the echo buff for these instances making it easier for players later on to fail their way to a clear. Not sure what else they can or will do. In general though, the advice from Moomba and Stepjam is solid. If you find yourself getting bad groups and struggling, put up a PF listing. There are plenty of experienced players that are happy to help newer players catch up, or at the very least people who will run anything for a new-player bonus(i know im guilty some weeks).
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Just to add. As the players were just jumping ship at the mere sight of this place it tells me that this is a very common issue for a lot of people. Who is asleep at the wheel of the development team that they have not taken any action whatsoever to fix this?
    I havent seen one abandon of The Dancing Plague, even though people were often expressing their unhappiness to get this trial - mainly, and this is funny, because a huge amount of the playerbase isnt able to deal with mechanics properly.
    While I'm sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience with this trial, I wouldnt say its a common issue - or at least not an issue on EU-servers, since I cant talk about the NA ones.

    I'd like to ask you however: What are the desv supposed to do "fix" this? Dumb it down even more, so people have to worry even less about the person who doesnt understand the simple mechanic of not standing in an AoE?
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    There's nothing wrong with the dancing plague other than it isn't 100% faceroll. The dps check is a bit tight for a normal trial, but nothing THAT intimidating. Worst case scenario, you use a ranged LB to soften up the adds. As long as the tanks remember to grab agro on the middle and left adds, its nothing that can't be done.

    I didn't expect Titania to become the new shinryu though, I gotta say.
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    I already mentioned my suggestion. The dps check is too high for fresh 73's using level 72 gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I already mentioned my suggestion. The dps check is too high for fresh 73's using level 72 gear.
    I respectfully disagree - the dps-check might be to high for "fresh" level 73's who despite reaching level 73 still dont know how to play their jobs and deal an amount of damage that would have been acceptable during HW. We need more content that lets people know they need to step up their game a little bit - please note that I am not talking savage difficulty! I'm merely refering to my paladin out-dps'ing about 30% of the dps I encounter and thats not okay.
    We need to stop asking for such nerfs each time someone hits a little bump - I'll admit that yours appears to be extreme. Nerfs like you're asking is what leads to people not learning their rotations and being utterly surprised when they try their hands on EX-primals and Savage and are being removed from groups because they're being out-dps'd by healers.
    I understand that a lot of people only play for the story but that doesnt free them from doing their jobs properly - they'd have to do the same in a single player game. Having a reminder that you not only need to improve your level and gear but also your personal skill is something I'd like to see more of, not less.

    Again... sorry that you're having such a bad experience with this - its not one I can relate to, everytime I got Titania NM for my trials roulette, people stayed, saw it through and generally cleared it without much problems. So no, in my experience the dps-check isnt to high as long as people dont play like they're rolling their faces over their keyboards.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Bismark(lvl 57) was the hardest trial in heavensward, not because it was poorly tuned but because people couldnt pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.
    Susano'o(lvl 63) was the hardest trial in stormblood, not because it was poorly tuned but because people couldnt pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.

    You might find yourself thinking, nidhogg and shinryu had the most complaints for a nerf at release and both were more mechanically complex fights for their expansions. And this is all true. But once a certain percentage of the population got the fights down these complaints mostly ceased. Rising i-levels helped smooth the fights out, but the complaints settled down before this could have been a factor. Titania seems destined to be this expansions trial that will still challenge some players 4 patches from now when it pops up in a roulette, because for whatever reason they wont be able to pay attention and follow the 2 or 3 simple mechanics.
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