Why don't we have a Rival Wings queue by now?

[Valic]

It's popular in japan and runs 24/7... We have 2 modes so far and they're infinitely more fun than frontlines. They get ignored though because frontlines has a roulette and no one queue's for things like feast and RW consistently. RW because its a large party requirement that roulettes don't help... Feast because it's just not fun >_>; we used to see 8v8 feast commonly but 4v4 both ranked and training always take forever, and usually are the same groups of people and toxicity spamming chat of "nice jobs".

Frankly, why not do a feast roulette and give back our 8v8 feast, and give RW a roulette so we can actually have fun in the mode more than just on weekends.

inb4 someone tells me to join the discord I'm already in it for on weekends.

[Aramyth]

Frontlines and Rival Wings should be the same queue/roulette. Queue for PvP and get a random game.

[Valic]

Frontlines and Rival Wings should be the same queue/roulette. Queue for PvP and get a random game.

We do that though, and we end up with the issue that happened with frontlines where we see seize/secure never show up, but shatter always. We'd just only see rival wings in that case.

[Rufalus]

Maybe that jp popularity is causing them to react slowly on any kind of adjustment. By contrast RW is completely dead on other datacenters during the week like you said. They might've done something by now if it was a global issue.

EU is so focused on roulette bonuses that people even run main scenario roulette every day. Roulettes or daily campaigns for feast and rival wings could be huge for participation. They need a presence on that first page, the roulette page of the DF that a lot of people never look beyond.

[Duskane]

Pretty sure they are adjusting the first RW so its a bit more balance

So you can't actually do the map unless its changed in 5.0

So would just be 1 mode right now
Plus we have "seal Rock 2" in 5.1 so i don't see any RW adjustments for awhile

[OskarXCI]

We do that though, and we end up with the issue that happened with frontlines where we see seize/secure never show up, but shatter always. We'd just only see rival wings in that case.

That won’t be an issue. The Daily Challenge queue is a rotation rather than a roulette. Everybody is forced into the same map.

But I think they should keep Frontline and Rival Wings separate. They need to make adjustments to Astragalos so it’s more inline with Hidden Gorge. Map size is the primary concern. Once that is done, place both RW maps in a rotation queue with a daily bonus, similar to FL.

[Valic]

That won’t be an issue. The Daily Challenge queue is a rotation rather than a roulette. Everybody is forced into the same map.

But I think they should keep Frontline and Rival Wings separate. They need to make adjustments to Astragalos so it’s more inline with Hidden Gorge. Map size is the primary concern. Once that is done, place both RW maps in a rotation queue with a daily bonus, similar to FL.

I'd like that as well. I mostly just would't enjoy if FL and RW shared together so it could be either or because then it'll be just frontlines like before prolly. I'd like to see their own individual ones, but I also wouldn't like to see frontlines locked one day for rival wings and vice versa.