LS bank

[Girlie]

I was under the impression that they were simply pushed back due to time constraints and other priorities.

I'll try and link it when I find it, but Yoshida mentioned in another interview that, for example, before building that cake with fellow company members that Tanaka had touted, they needed to find a use for that cake. So while cake building may seem like a trivial, small part of it, the overarching message to me sounds like they're still trying to work out how exactly player-run companies will function, and that Grand Companies were prioritized to add more content.

EDIT: Here's the interview: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2011/03...naoki-yoshida/

That interview talked about joint crafting a cake, and yes, it was mentioned that group crafting was something they wanted to pursue. But that response did not tell us that joint crafting would be part of player-run companies. I do not see any reason to believe that the joint crafting would be part of anything other than the Grand Companies, or possibly some other type of quest. Ever since the very first Letter from the Producer, the planned changes in the "Companies" section has only been regarding public companies, now renamed Grand Companies.

Of course, the last producer's letter said:

In my next letter, I’ll be sure to update the list of game changes. (Sorry it’s been so long...)

Maybe we'll get some mention of player run companies when that happens, but honestly, I don't think linkshell-type companies are planned for this game at all anymore.

And that's why we need linkshell banks.

[Chrees]

That interview talked about joint crafting a cake, and yes, it was mentioned that group crafting was something they wanted to pursue. But that response did not tell us that joint crafting would be part of player-run companies. I do not see any reason to believe that the joint crafting would be part of anything other than the Grand Companies, or possibly some other type of quest. Ever since the very first Letter from the Producer, the planned changes in the "Companies" section has only been regarding public companies, now renamed Grand Companies.

In that interview, no, they didn't specifically mention companies. But the original presentation back in mid-September where groups crafting cakes were shown alongside cannons, boats, etc. as well as showing off company housing were examples of what players could expect of player-run companies. Of course, this was September, so I'm sure things have changed...but it's the closest we've gotten to any substantial information.

[Lerris]

Do we have any indication that this is still happening? My impression was that player run companies have been completely scrapped, and we are only getting these Grand Companies now.

There has always been mention of public companies ( ie. the Grand Companies of Eorzea ) and private companies ( player run ). Nobody's actually announced that private companies have been scrapped; I imagine basic linkshell functionality needs to be improved before they can happen, and that's lower in priority than battle system changes.

[Xzen]

There has always been mention of public companies ( ie. the Grand Companies of Eorzea ) and private companies ( player run ). Nobody's actually announced that private companies have been scrapped; I imagine basic linkshell functionality needs to be improved before they can happen, and that's lower in priority than battle system changes.

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the the private companies are still on the table but they are trying to give context to them before implementing them.

[Eldaena]

I think it would be nice if they let you rent wards for your LS. That way when people search wards, towards the bottom you can see wards named after the LS. People can still go shop in them too but only that LSs retainers can be there. That way LS members can buy from each other if they want to buy from each other first instead of buying from a random retainer. Also, while you rent that ward, that ward can come with it's own retainer just for that ward where if people in that LS get items they don't need they can put it in there for other people in the LS to use if they do need it. They could easily make it so that if you have the appropriate LS equipped you can place retainers in that ward as well as access that LS retainer.

Edit: As far as that retainer selling items, probably only the leaders should deal with the matters of gil. And if you don't want to sell from the LS retainer you don't have to, Very easy.

[Xatsh]

AS many have said a linkshell/guild bank is a very good things and honestly it causes no problems only helps the guild advance... the issue comes into play with leaders who have no idea how to keep records for the bank or just plain out corrupt leaders who steal from it.

My ls currently has a bank in XIV and it had it in XI. We actually have a whole custom built accounting system to keep track of who has what, how much of it they have, and what each member is able to withdraw from it. It provides a trade system for member to easily get crafting materials, allow for members to withdraw item from the bank for dkp, provides a central unit to sell excess gear drops and will provide food, meds, expensive ammo, and other event related cost.

If you want a bank to work it is simple:
1) Never let 1 person hold everything... this is really bad. Theft is always a risk, and 1 person holding everything yea...
2) Keep Records of everything... every single transaction must be recorded as soon as it takes place. Member must know how the bank is spending and making money, and it must be visible.
3) Only allow people you know to hold bank... if it is a new shell do not start a bank at the start. My leaders in Paradox have been with me for over 2-3 yrs, so I know them and the chances of them bailing with bank are a fraction of what a newer member would be.
4) Person who handles the balancing of the books and what not, Does not hold gil/items. Simple accounting policy the one who keeps records does not hold money/assets.

The issue with everything above is the paperwork, and the more the bank does the worse the paperwork/transaction time becomes. That is where linkshell's get lazy for the most part and a crooked person will use that time to skim funds or outright make false entrees and it will fly under the radar. A simple bank to truly keep good records will probally be around 2-4hrs a week of paper work, my bank system was about 10-15hrs/week until we made the automated system, now it is back down to 4-5ish hrs.

[ApplePie]

This isn't like WoW where you hammer a mining opint once and get 50 ore. Materials are limited. Most people purchase items specifically for their needs. I may give a couple nuggets or sinew to someone if he or she wants to synth that for a craft, but I'm not going to give crazy materials to people. Although I receive crazy materials, heh. And gil is too easy to come by and you can't fully repair your equipment from an NPC. At our current state, linkshell banks wouldn't give any long lasting benefit. Maybe one day in the future it will be very beneficial, but right now, I don't think it would be too helpful.

[Eldaena]

This isn't like WoW where you hammer a mining opint once and get 50 ore. Materials are limited. Most people purchase items specifically for their needs. I may give a couple nuggets or sinew to someone if he or she wants to synth that for a craft, but I'm not going to give crazy materials to people. Although I receive crazy materials, heh. And gil is too easy to come by and you can't fully repair your equipment from an NPC. At our current state, linkshell banks wouldn't give any long lasting benefit. Maybe one day in the future it will be very beneficial, but right now, I don't think it would be too helpful.

Well, it would certainly help some LS, including my own. Often I get materials for other people or that I don't need myself and it would be so much better if we can just collectively put those items together for that LS, rather than the tediousness of having tha tperson online, trading several times to them, etc. Plus, if we make things that could possibly benefit others in the LS, the LS retainer could help with that too. (Better than npcing everything we grind on, lol)

[Xzen]

This isn't like WoW where you hammer a mining opint once and get 50 ore. Materials are limited. Most people purchase items specifically for their needs. I may give a couple nuggets or sinew to someone if he or she wants to synth that for a craft, but I'm not going to give crazy materials to people. Although I receive crazy materials, heh. And gil is too easy to come by and you can't fully repair your equipment from an NPC. At our current state, linkshell banks wouldn't give any long lasting benefit. Maybe one day in the future it will be very beneficial, but right now, I don't think it would be too helpful.

Heh. I throw away ore and tons of other crafting mats that people could use simply because I have no inventory space anymore. Several members also ask if they should hang onto items for who ever needs them and I have to tell them to toss them or vendor them because no one has the inventory space.

[Zkieve]

Anything related for more linkshell customization is welcome.
A bank will exist on organised linkshells whatever is implemented into the system or not.

Linkshell leadership needs all the help it can get , i always tough ffxi linkshell system was way to basic and surprisingly they managed to dumb it down even further.