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  1. #91
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    I love how predictable these forums have become over the years. You can always expect a Mentor bashing thread at least once a week. For as often as I've seen this topic come up you would think, at least on my end I would have been called out at some point considering I've been wearing the crown since i got it in late heavensward.

    My personal rule is that I keep the mentor crown on so that people can feel free to ask anything that I know the answer to and If i don't I'll direct them somewhere that might have more information regarding their question. In the 4+ years I've been playing this game and have had the Mentor Crown visible on my character I've never at any point acted negatively towards anyone no matter what they've asked and I've also never been a target. Yes I know, Anecdotal experiences are Anecdotal and all that. I just find it interesting with the amount of complaints targeted towards mentors that I would have experienced one by now.


    Bear in mind, I'm in no way saying Bad Mentors Don't exist. I've seen a small handful personally that clearly only got mentor for personal gain and nothing more, but I have a feeling that a lot of the complaints towards mentors suffer from the "We don't have the whole story" effect or they are severely drummed up for dramatic effect/trolling. I mean to warrant as many threads as we get on this forum about terrible mentors, you would think it would be more of a visible plague that's infecting the entire player base.


    There isn't any point to these threads besides playing a versus debate game which never stops. Both sides point fingers at each other, generalizations all over the place. Do I think the way they implemented the Mentor system was a mistake? Yes. The requirements are way, way to easy to acquire. Do I also think they should revamp the system to have much stricter requirements? Absolutely.
    Unfortunately too many people think "mentor" means "expert in everything at all times, also the best player in the world." Often they tip their hand by demanding that savage clears get added to mentor requirements at which point it becomes clear that they really just want to make it an exclusive club for themselves to boast and tell sprouts to "git gud".
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  2. #92
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingqin View Post
    Just remove the mentor system, I learnt when I was new not to bother with mentors they're unhelpful for the most part.
    It has an achievement included with it. It'd be hard to actually get rid of it because of what said achievements actually reward (The special two person mount I believe).
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

  3. #93
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I'm a mentor who tries to help people out. I then get yelled at by other players for holding up the game. So, it seems like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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  4. #94
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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    there is a lack of guidelines to enforce with the generation of mentors.
    Yes we do:



    Take particular note of the asterisked part in orange.
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  5. #95
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    Andre Cat
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    Lich
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    Everyone who has the Mentor title should be honoured and also be committed to help the community, share some knowledge and be an example for in game behaviours certainly, performance possibly. Those who can’t do that should un-equip their crown.
    I would say, 5/10 mentors are good. Also good part of the new or newish players are not willing to listen or learn or understand this game or be part of the community and that’s a solid 7/10.
    Important to say that in the “good mentors” category there are different kind of mentors that have different attitudes, specialities and way to help others. You can be short tempered or a strict one but still a good mentor tbf. Being honourable always it’s a must.
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    Helfgrin Dreggit
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    I still think mentor reqs ought to be increased to

    Combat

    L80 each role
    2k dungeons
    1.5k comms

    Mentor crown should be limited to thr req set met
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