Thread: Spells and skill you want for your job in 6.0!

Breaking the dichotomy like that would still make AST and WHM healing very similar.

Honestly I preferred it when none of the healers had a full healing kit. SCH has powerful shields but weak heals. WHM had powerful heals but no mitigation. Either could complete 4 man content but you needed one of each for serious 8 man content. The introduction of AST made this more complicated, since healing was previously designed to require two roles. So AST has the sects. At the same time SCH got a lot more direct healing power (hello Indom) and so became more capable of being filling either/both roles. WHM was still stuck in its rut. Adding a 4th healer could help them get back into a better balance with WHM and AST (without nocturnal) as the big heal-y/Regen healers and SCH (with a bunch of their big heals reworked into mitigation) and (new healer) as the mitigators. You could further divide by having WHM and SCH be the personal dps healers and AST and (new healer) be the buff healers. You could then differentiate again by having WHM and (new class) as the simpler offensive skill healers and SCH (with old dps abilities restored and chain strategem replaced with a personal buff) and AST (with old cards restored) as the more complex offensive options healers. The new healer could even use the new AST cards with a reskin as their buff mechanic.

WHM and (new healer) would probably be preferred by the top parsers, because they’d have to have the same damage potential, and the same damage potential when easier to deliver is generally more damage, but I’m okay with that. I’d be too busy having fun on SCH and AST with whatever group was a bit more relaxed to care.

But yes, I’ll agree that the moves I want most are the moves I lost. I would much rather play Heavensward SCH than Shadowbringers SCH. (Then again, I’d also rather not play ffxiv than play ShB SCH so there’s that).

Originally Posted by Archwizard

Not huge on the idea of healers getting movement tools since that's a bit much, but some of these sound neat...



"Mana"-esque abilities are better saved for BLM and, by extension, RDM, since the lore seems to treat them as the internal energy of the caster, which CNJ/WHMs try to avoid with the help of elementals (hence why their spells involve reducing costs).
But there are plenty of alternative names, like Aethersurf, Aetherglide, Crashing Wave, Tidal Surge, Hydroplane, etc.



Definitely liking the name "Tactical Advance". An alternative could also be just instantly swapping positions with Lily instead of being pulled towards her, though I expect the pull effect would be easier to code and work with.



Not a fan of this one. Putting a two minute cooldown on a teleport that only works during the window of another cooldown makes it incredibly finicky.

You could, however, just go the Time Mage route with such a skill and make it into a Blink effect. If "Blink" is too on the nose of a name or out of place for AST, perhaps something like... Syzygy, Escape Velocity, Gravity Well, or Solar Wind?

To differentiate it from the WHM version, perhaps WHM's could have a shorter cooldown but require a cast time (as they draw in water before the surge).

Ooo I like Escape Velocity for the name, that's a good one. The "swap with your fairy position" is def the kind of movement skill I'd love for scholar, it would reward optimal fairy placement for higher uptime.

can we offer a complete skill tree for our classes like complete reworks? or have things changed at said class?

i meant like change the entire kit of a class and give it a whole different skill set from what it currently has.
i'm sorry if i wasn't clear.
is that ok?

At this point I really just want the Fey Gauge to be more useful. I don't mind Aetherpact and Fey Blessing is pretty neat as well - but outside of higher end content I can't think of many instances where my gauge wasn't constantly at 100. Barring the occasional 'I NEED TO PREVENT A WIPE, EOS GO TETHER THE TANK SO I CAN HARD RAISE' debacle. I'd love for it to include some DPS spells but that's asking too much given the way things currently stand for healers...

HY there

As was an astrologian main, i can tell i loved the old astrologian far more. It was perfect. The feeling to play with it was far sperior and far much unique than any class even worldwode not just in FF. Now astrologian is nothing... can do nothing, and its buff dont do anything compared to the real astrologian what it was in stormblood.
Astrologian is something like prophetess. Fate guides you nothing else. If the fate gives you The Bole card, go and find a use for it. It have so many way to use that card. The new astrologian, well, i wont call those things cards anymore, much more a piece of paper with some low lvl enhancement, nvm, so the real thing, this astrologian is not astrologian anymore.
The real astrologian was the old one, what was guided by fate (RNG cause fate is probably is that) and followed by luck and creativity, to find use for what fate choses for you.

But to take aways from the "RP" side of the class, astroologian old card system was far superior and enjoyable in every way. Every card has its own use. For me, as a not that professional gamer, ewer was everything. Free mana? Jesus, need.
But for other options, with AOE + Bole combo + aspected helios with nocturnal was a great boss aoe mechanic blocker. What is main priority in this game afterall. Yet its gone.
Other realy useful thing was for me in dungeon runs, it was pretty much helpful The Arrow card, for faster recasts and such.
In other situations, a +50% buffed The Spear card was a very nice buff for a dragoon or other high dmg dps to melt even bosses in no time.
So please, peoples... The Balance is not the only card. As that it is most worthless card in the whole deck. Yes, the combination effect to gives +50% to the effect of the next used card was good. But realy... still that was the lowest card in the deck.
Cause as a healer, my role is not dmg buff but saveing the group. And well, dmg dont gives defense nor anything else. For dps boost, there is many support class like Bard for example or now Dancer.

But please, be somewhat "realistic". The role of the healer is not to support damage output of the dps's. Its role save them and heal them.

So anyway, i prefer the old astrologian much more. For player experience and for usefulness too. I hope Developers will see the logic in this and hope they undo this astrologian called charlatan.

Fate be with you everyone.