Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
alright bud, you want to cherry pick? lets cherry pick.

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/23

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/19

Keep pretending it wasn't because raise.

50 bucks says you considered this fair, lmao
You don't think mobility couldn't have had some reason as well? Summoners back when that was relevant could do bait-type mechanics as well as a ranged DPS could, which itself was invaluable for keeping healers rooted and, well, healing. This was an advantage that Black Mage and Red Mage lacked. Liquid Hell bait DPS needs a backup? SMN to the rescue, able to Ruin 2 and run. Eruption baiting? Summoner loses basically nothing doing this, so the healers lose nothing in needing to do it for the caster.

Raise is a factor, yes, but if BLM had raise in that fight and maintained its immense disadvantage in mobility, it wouldn't have done much better. While Red Mage, who has verraise, did better than Black Mage, it has barely over half the clear rate as Summoners despite how much better it is at raising quickly. Summoners are so vastly overrepresented in both Ultimates because it lacked any of the weaknesses of its peers and had the strengths of both of them.

You know who else got to be top dog DPS for an expansion and hated by its peers because it demanded that place for "reparations" from past expansion's tough points? Summoner. Just a thought.