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    Lalarrific's Avatar
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    Please add something to FFXIV that disables 3rd party software interactions.

    It would make botting a lot harder. I wouldn't be sad to see parsing go, either.
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    ~With a spring in my step, and a song in my heart~

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    The backlash they'd get from axing parsers at this point would be huge.

    Also, if people actually want to get around security programs like that, it's really not that difficult. WoW has been constantly plagued by botting issues despite them being among the most persistent about the matter with an active enforcement team and security programs.

    They did at least succeed in scaring people into not using their mains to bot due to how real the risk of getting banned is, though. One of the main reasons botting is even as big of an issue there as it is is the lack of quest-gated progression, as you only need to be the right level to access the latest zones, which makes it way easier for people to churn out gathering bots then it is in XIV.

    That said, if they actually bothered enforcing the non-RMT bots around here they'd have little issues keeping them in check.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 08-16-2019 at 11:19 AM.

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    This isn't a parser hate thread disguised as a bot hate thread at all. Not in the slightest.
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    Last edited by Hash_Browns; 08-16-2019 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    This isn't a parser hate thread disguised as a bot hate threat at all. Not in the slightest.
    Lol.
    I wonder if parsing it starting to run rampant with all these post related things about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Lol.
    I wonder if parsing it starting to run rampant with all these post related things about them.
    The vocal minority of the anti-parser groups flare up every once in a while, especially at the start of new content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Lol.
    I wonder if parsing it starting to run rampant with all these post related things about them.
    Just flavor of the month correlating at times with content. We go from parser debate to healer dps debate to community toxicity debate then to some topic that's completely unrelated to FF14 (that either for weeks or just gets straight up deleted. Shout out to ottergate 2.0) and then the actual discussion about new content and then right back to parser debate.

    Seems like the only time people there's fun to be about on the forums is when new msq content gets added to the game. Newcomers arriving smackdab into that would get the impression the game's community is a slice of heaven and so is the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    The backlash they'd get from axing parsers at this point would be huge.
    You mean people using software that violates the ToS?

    Don't think their backlash matters to be honest. They're cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HWalsh View Post
    You mean people using software that violates the ToS?

    Don't think their backlash matters to be honest. They're cheating.
    For bot programs? Yes. For parsers? No, Yoshi-P doesn't consider them cheating. He just doesn't like the toxicity they bring, hence the don't ask don't tell stance SE has kept for the past few years. So long as you don't out yourself as using one and use that to harass people you won't get in trouble. Yoshi-P has himself even admitted to watching World First streams for content where parsers are clearly displayed in the video.
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    Last edited by Enla; 08-16-2019 at 11:41 AM. Reason: typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    For bot programs? Yes. For parsers? No, Yoshi-P doesn't consider them cheating. He just doesn't like the toxicity they bring, hence the don't ask don't tell stance SE has kept for the past few years. So long as you don't out yourself as using one and use that to harass people you won't get in trouble. Yoshi-P has himself even admitted to watching World First streams for content where parsers are clearly displayed in the video.
    Most ppl who parse don't ask and don't tell. They just Kick you.
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    There is no magical way to stop programs reading and writing memory. It's fact. They could implement something that would stop the current programs, but would only be a matter of days before that is circumvented. It has been and always will be a losing battle. Only way to stop botting is to shut off the servers.
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