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    Lalarrific's Avatar
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    Please add something to FFXIV that disables 3rd party software interactions.

    It would make botting a lot harder. I wouldn't be sad to see parsing go, either.
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    ~With a spring in my step, and a song in my heart~

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    The backlash they'd get from axing parsers at this point would be huge.

    Also, if people actually want to get around security programs like that, it's really not that difficult. WoW has been constantly plagued by botting issues despite them being among the most persistent about the matter with an active enforcement team and security programs.

    They did at least succeed in scaring people into not using their mains to bot due to how real the risk of getting banned is, though. One of the main reasons botting is even as big of an issue there as it is is the lack of quest-gated progression, as you only need to be the right level to access the latest zones, which makes it way easier for people to churn out gathering bots then it is in XIV.

    That said, if they actually bothered enforcing the non-RMT bots around here they'd have little issues keeping them in check.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 08-16-2019 at 11:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    The backlash they'd get from axing parsers at this point would be huge.
    You mean people using software that violates the ToS?

    Don't think their backlash matters to be honest. They're cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HWalsh View Post
    You mean people using software that violates the ToS?

    Don't think their backlash matters to be honest. They're cheating.
    For bot programs? Yes. For parsers? No, Yoshi-P doesn't consider them cheating. He just doesn't like the toxicity they bring, hence the don't ask don't tell stance SE has kept for the past few years. So long as you don't out yourself as using one and use that to harass people you won't get in trouble. Yoshi-P has himself even admitted to watching World First streams for content where parsers are clearly displayed in the video.
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    Last edited by Enla; 08-16-2019 at 11:41 AM. Reason: typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    For bot programs? Yes. For parsers? No, Yoshi-P doesn't consider them cheating. He just doesn't like the toxicity they bring, hence the don't ask don't tell stance SE has kept for the past few years. So long as you don't out yourself as using one and use that to harass people you won't get in trouble. Yoshi-P has himself even admitted to watching World First streams for content where parsers are clearly displayed in the video.
    Most ppl who parse don't ask and don't tell. They just Kick you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Most ppl who parse don't ask and don't tell. They just Kick you.
    I'd like to see statistics on that, given that most people I know who parse use it as a personal measuring stick. I've never seen someone kicked for low numbers. I have seen people kicked for constantly failing mechanics and being rude however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Most ppl who parse don't ask and don't tell. They just Kick you.
    Most people who use parsers don't tell you about it and don't particularly care when you're talking about leveling dungeons which I believe the OP was. Like seriously... I don't care what your Sastasha dps is or your Rabanastre dps for that matter. Your dps matters when there are dps checks you can reasonably fail. So we're talking about current content only, EX trials and savage raids where your dps actually matters. Leveling dungeons? Nobody cares but you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Most ppl who parse don't ask and don't tell. They just Kick you.
    And if you're kicked without a reason, you can report them for kicking you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Most ppl who parse don't ask and don't tell. They just Kick you.
    Because they would be banned for doing so.


    Btw SE is lazy and they are not going to do ANYTHING about bots, they dont care anymore, they take all money made in ffxiv and put it all into another useless triple A garbage that nobody is going to play a week after release. Like come on, even GMs cant ban guys running on multihack tools, you could literaly teleport GM around in circles this is a disaster, why would you expect them to do anything? On one of "these" forums, there are people who are using same cheating tools FOR MONTHS on their main accounts without any consquences, that speaks for itself.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 08-18-2019 at 11:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    For bot programs? Yes. For parsers? No, Yoshi-P doesn't consider them cheating. He just doesn't like the toxicity they bring, hence the don't ask don't tell stance SE has kept for the past few years. So long as you don't out yourself as using one and use that to harass people you won't get in trouble. Yoshi-P has himself even admitted to watching World First streams for content where parsers are clearly displayed in the video.
    I don't care what Yoshi-P thinks. The ToS is the ToS.
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