dungeon 71 80 do big lure!

[Kazhim]

You must be playing a different game. It's pretty rare to find a tank they doesn't pull multiple mob sets or a healer that doesn't dps.

well just ask to the 2 group i get in queue this morning, my first run got nice pul run fast and so on, and the two next, they pulled the 3 first mobs each, so i was meh, i dont have really much patient that true, but if we are frank those dungeon are even less harder than some old 50 one or 60 one, so i dont really get why those poorly pull.

[Komarimono]

well just ask to the 2 group i get in queue this morning, my first run got nice pul run fast and so on, and the two next, they pulled the 3 first mobs each, so i was meh, i dont have really much patient that true, but if we are frank those dungeon are even less harder than some old 50 one or 60 one, so i dont really get why those poorly pull.

Some people play safe, it literally makes no difference in speed most times anyway. Can take less time even if DPS is poorly geared as you are, since not enough damage to AoE that many mobs quickly.

[Fynlar]

I got kicked from a group cause i lured more mobs to make it faster,

Fair, next.

[Bearded]

It's a levelling dungeon and people you know may be new to the experience and not in the best gear as they are levelling. Best to check with healer before starting run if big pulls are ok and use your head - if your HP suffers or you have issues keeping the attention of the mobs then pull less. As others have said it really makes no difference to how long the dungeon takes.

If it frustrates you that much and you state you don't know why you continue to play well you know the simple solution is to take a break and chill.

[Sathona]

Im going to lure as much as i am comfortable with.
YOUR job is to kill what i pull.

[TankHunter678]

Its a tank's job to have a clear understanding of how much they can pull and how much strain they can put on the healer. As it is very easy to take a pull that should have been just fine and turn it into a party wipe. Some people are also very nervous in the role and play very safe. So forcing them to have to take care of more can have very bad consequences.

Which is why as DPS you should not pull more. Do your job and DPS down what the tank pulls. If you refuse to DPS because the tank did not pull as much as you want that can be interpreted as trolling and gives your party a justifiable reason to boot you out.

[SenorPatty]

Ok so let me break this down on two points:

On the DPs pulling more mobs: First, you actually gotta talk to your tank about that. Find out if they're up to it because trust me on this, if they say no, they're not gonna go out of their way to pull extra packs off of you when you decide to it. Now if they say yes, actually let them do it. Don't go off and pull a third pack when they already pulled two. Maybe they wanna stop right they are or maybe they're actually on their way to that third pack. Either way, if they're willing and doing it, let them mass pull at their pace.

On the boss pull: It shouldn't be an issue on who pulls if your tank is basically a bullet train. He/She will pick it up with a single move, they're usually right behind anyone that pulled it by like, a second or two. Different story if your tank is the skittish/ "gotta do my breathing techniques before I go at it" type of tank.

[Nora_of_Mira]

TBh i dont even know why i continue to play, maybe to kill time, cause gameplay is kinda same since several years, after all content, as bm spam your aoe, then you solo target on boss, as samurai spam your aoe then your solo skill target on boss, and so on. Nothing seem really change since heavenswaard.

theres a lot more to FFxiv than dungeons and I would label FFxiv's dungeons one of the weakest forms of enjoyable content.

my solution in getting over different opinions in dungeons was to stop expecting competency from dungeons. when the content can be cleared by being half AFK, you will always get players that don't agree on how to clear said content.

[Liam_Harper]

Majority rules. Your group didn't like you pulling, it's fair they kicked you for doing so without asking. You need to communicate, you can't just decide 3 others are playing it your way.

If slow dungeons bother you, the option of leveling a tank is always there.

[HyoMinPark]

You must be playing a different game. It's pretty rare to find a tank they doesn't pull multiple mob sets or a healer that doesn't dps.

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It’s actually very common now to see healers that won’t contribute to damage after the ShB changes. Especially with all the hubbub surrounding Yoshida’s “pure healing” terminology and how that was misinterpreted.