fate of emperor varis at the end

[Edax]

This is going to be the last time I bother repeating myself with this because this is getting absurd; Nobody knows Project Resonant made Zenos immortal...

This will be the last time I repeat myself. Fordola is the positive test result. She was proven nigh invincible in combat. That alone is enough for the technology to be worth looking into. The idea that The Empire would not know of this completely game-changing technology they themselves funded and researched would be just be proof positive the Empire is hopelessly incompetent.

[Nalien]

This will be the last time I repeat myself. Fordola is the positive test result. She was proven nigh invincible in combat. That alone is enough for the technology to be worth looking into. The idea that The Empire would not know of this completely game-changing technology they themselves funded and researched would be just be proof positive the Empire is hopelessly incompetent.

Not really repeating yourself when you're making a new point, but whatever.

You realize Fordola was never really fielded extensively enough post-Resonant to actually be worth any data, right? One skirmish at Castrum Abania and then she was captured and Project Resonant shut down. Next morning Aulus was dead and Ala Mhigo liberated... "Nigh invincible in combat", yet absolutely nothing came of that. She failed to stop Castrum Abania falling. She failed to defend Project Resonant. She failed to stop Ala Mhigo from being liberated. Those are the results that will reach Garlemald, not that she managed to toy with Lyse briefly in Castrum Abania, before Urianger pulled a deus ex machina out his robe to completely counter her.

[Kuroka]

The real question is if Gaius is still alive TBH. He's killed quite a few people who tried to take the throne from Souls and has a vested interest (even more so then Varis) of wanting a well ruled Garlemald. He's also got a better idea of what threat the Ascians really represent and would probably be a lot more willing to work with the Eorzean Alliance to at least stop the Ascians.

I called it long ago they'll use him as the next leader, he has the all it takes, including a name, evne if he got shamed... has a link to us and the Scions and knows all the truth.

[Edax]

Because it worked and has greater potential than an atom bomb. Immortality. Invincibility. -snip- The success with Fordola alone would warrant this becoming a national priority.

A single soldiers that would be invincible in combat is worth more than 100 conscripts. On top of that, they have cloning technology. This would absolutely be technology worth looking into. The project was bigger than one man, word would have gotten out.

This will be the last time I repeat myself. Fordola is the positive test result. She was proven nigh invincible in combat. That alone is enough for the technology to be worth looking into. The idea that The Empire would not know of this completely game-changing technology they themselves funded and researched would be just be proof positive the Empire is hopelessly incompetent.

Not really repeating yourself when you're making a new point, but whatever.

It really does paint a pathetic picture of the Empire, when the Warrior of Light ends up more knowledgeable about the Empire's ultimate research data then the Empire does.

[Absimiliard]

Do we have any evidence to suggest that the Empire never received word of Aulus' success? If Varis is willing to resort to using Black Rose, why wouldn't he be willing to have his people use prisoners of war as test subjects to refine the Resonant creation process? I'm quite sure the Empire would pursue this if indeed they got the details.

[Anselmet]

I have a feeling the next character we play as will be Estinien. And of course we will be saving Gaius during the fight.

[Absimiliard]

I have a feeling the next character we play as will be Estinien. And of course we will be saving Gaius during the fight.

Would much rather play as Gaius saving Gaius during the fight.

[Cilia]

Do we have any evidence to suggest that the Empire never received word of Aulus' success? If Varis is willing to resort to using Black Rose, why wouldn't he be willing to have his people use prisoners of war as test subjects to refine the Resonant creation process? I'm quite sure the Empire would pursue this if indeed they got the details.

For starters things are false until proven true, not the other way around. There shouldn't need to be evidence the Empire never received word about Aulus' experiments, because until we know they did it's more appropriate to operate under the assumption it did not.

That out of the way, Varis probably did know about everything Zenos was doing (note that he was somehow observing our final battle against him in Ala Mhigo), but I find it highly doubtful that information spread beyond him. Something to remember is that the Empire historically took a dim view of Echo users - they viewed them in the same light as the beast tribes (no doubt because they posed a great threat to Emet-Selch's plans) - and it's only due to Zenos' iconoclasm Resonance was developed. Varis laughed Aulus out of court.

Despite that, it's unlikely the rest of the Empire has all the details and schematics and such to reproduce the Resonatorium elsewhere, and Aulus' research notes were left in Ala Mhigo (and probably not copied). There's also the issue of not having an Echo user to copy off of. It's also implied that there's a low success rate of the procedure, and while it provides advantages, those advantages can be negated... and, again, nobody was aware Zenos would become for most intents and purposes immortal because of it.

If they had Aulus' research notes maybe they could research and refine it... but those were left behind in Ala Mhigo, so...

[Edax]

, nobody was aware Zenos would become for most intents and purposes immortal because of it..

Apparently technological immortality is just that easy to develop. Accidently.
And apparently technological immortality is just that easy to be lost. Because only one guy worked on it apparently.

[geekgirl101]

I highly doubt he survived or will be coming back. He was interfering with Zenos's sick and twisted game and choosing in Zenos's words a coward's way of dealing with the enemy was detestable and unforgivable, Zenos would've ensured his death was ultimate even if he was his own father. His taste of death and returning from it has further deepened his psychosis on a much more darker level, I dare say he's more darker than Lord Vauthry and Emet-Selch put together. We are in for a very chilling battle when we face him off a 2nd time.