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    fate of emperor varis at the end

    Did you think emperor varis surrive or not from zenos slash woundat the end of main quest shadowbringers and what of possible next

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    1. Varis surrive continues garlemald campaign again eorzea

    2.varis coma new leader replacement varis

    3.varis death civil war in garlemald

    4.emperor replacement if varis death

    Which is more likely
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    Rica Elak'ha
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    I hope Varis survives.

    But the most likely outcome is that he's dead and
    Zenos will take over.

    (Also, why would the writers put Estinien there...)
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    He wouldnt be able to continue his campaign either way,the only reason Zenos went after him is cause of it.
    And he is probably dead,theres no way hed survive that attack,aside from already being stabbed hed bleed out.
    Tho a civil war wouldnt be surprising if ppl dont accept Zenos as their ruler,which he will most likely kill anyway for standing in his way D:

    and most likely Zenos will take over in order to try to lure out the WoL for their fight~
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    (Also, why would the writers put Estinien there...)
    To either drag badly-injured Gaius out of there, or for both of them to drag not-quite-dead-yet Varis...?
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    Well, the writers do have a lazy "out" to bring Varis back. They established in Varis' own scenes that they can clone Emperors. On top of that, it appears that Imperial technology now includes immortality with the artificial echo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Well, the writers do have a lazy "out" to bring Varis back. They established in Varis' own scenes that they can clone Emperors. On top of that, it appears that Imperial technology now includes immortality with the artificial echo.
    That wouldn't really be Varis though. And from what we've seen of clones in the game so far, most are mindless puppets unless they've been imbued with a soul. Unless they've already cloned him and conveniently didn't mention it, they're going to need him to stay alive for now.
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    I think he's dead, but you never really know when you dealing with a Galvus.

    Sure he was stabbed by Zenos katana, but people survived through worse and there were 2 people that intervened and I'm sure that healer that's usually with Gaius is nearby too.
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    Zenos doesn't care about Garlemald. All he cares about is his upcoming rematch with the WoL. So if Varis is dead, then Garlemald is left leaderless which would probably lead to a civil war again.

    The real question is if Gaius is still alive TBH. He's killed quite a few people who tried to take the throne from Souls and has a vested interest (even more so then Varis) of wanting a well ruled Garlemald. He's also got a better idea of what threat the Ascians really represent and would probably be a lot more willing to work with the Eorzean Alliance to at least stop the Ascians.

    Estinean being there is important because that means that Eorzea will probably eventually know whatever ends up happening in the throne room. He's also one of the few people who is in the WoL's power range...
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    I kind of hope he dies, just because if he didn't... Isn't it just another coup out like Y'shtola being "killed" by Zenos?

    That said, I think his character still had more to offer, mostly because of Regula van Hydrus... We've still not had a chance to "be useful" to the Emperor...

    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    (Also, why would the writers put Estinien there...)
    Because bringing Zenos and Estinien together is how we revive Lahabrea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I kind of hope he dies, just because if he didn't... Isn't it just another coup out like Y'shtola being "killed" by Zenos?

    That said, I think his character still had more to offer, mostly because of Regula van Hydrus... We've still not had a chance to "be useful" to the Emperor...



    Because bringing Zenos and Estinien together is how we revive Lahabrea!
    Oh gods, I'm not sure how much more evil laughing I can handle.
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