I DON'T like Stormblood RDM

[Kabooa]

Just tl;dr'ed the core of everything that has been said. No strawman here, just simplifying, a summary if you will.

Let me help you. I'll use small words.

"IF BLACK MAGE IS 12k, THEN SO IS NINJA."

"IF NINJA GIVES 3% MORE RDPS, IT GIVES THE BLACK MAGE 6%"

"BLACK MAGE RDPS: 12,000"

"NINJA RDPS: 12,720"

Needs tuning, but if you took more than a minute to digest, that's the outcome you should have come to.

[CrashofZenki]

Let me help you. I'll use small words.

"IF BLACK MAGE IS 12k, THEN SO IS NINJA."

"IF NINJA GIVES 3% MORE RDPS, IT GIVES THE BLACK MAGE 6%"

"BLACK MAGE RDPS: 12,000"

"NINJA RDPS: 12,720"

Needs tuning, but if you took more than a minute to digest, that's the outcome you should have come to.

Ah, then I apolegize for miss-reading. The end result does seem fair if thats how they do it. Should satisfy everyone involved.

And this is exactly the point I have been trying to get accross for god knows how long. the small words you just wrote.
But apparently that has been shot down so much by so many. Especially SAM BLM and MNK mains.

[Kabooa]

Ah, then I apolegize for miss-reading. The end result does seem fair if thats how they do it. Should satisfy everyone involved.

And this is exactly the point I have been trying to get accross for god knows how long. the small words you just wrote.
But apparently that has been shot down so much by so many. Especially SAM BLM and MNK mains.

Our current system really doesn't support it, which is why there's a whole blurb of set up.

In our current system, to maintain that sort of parity means the RDPS bringers are severely lower on PDPS (and suffer in other parts of the game) or our PDPS aren't bringing anything worthwhile (And thus you could just use 4 RDPS and get a greater result)

That's my opinion at least. I think we need some structural change to really have that be an equitable set up, I dont' claim to speak for the others.

[CrashofZenki]

How about.. Utility buff scales with how many is in the party? Solo = full utility, Light Party = 1/4th effect each, Full Party = 1/8th effect each.

and on top of this... exceeding 2 utility DPS will give a small tax
3 utility DPS per party will put a 2/3th on total utility given to party
4 utility DPS per party giving 1/3th of total utility given to party

But keep utility DPS very close to non-utility DPS.

Would ease up the pDPS gap between no utility and utility DPS.
Maintain openings to non-utility classes while not bringing down utility DPS to the point where they dont matter.