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    Will the AST 50-60 quests be re-done now that all cards do the same thing?

    Now that the cards effectively have no purpose other than direct damage increase(boring), what was the point of the AST story-line level 50-60 where each card had a meaning, a purpose, and *GAsp* an identity? You broke the job, are you really going to break the lore as well, SE?
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    I don't really have a horse in this race, but the tone of your question does sound a bit aggressive
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Considering that they temporarily broke a few job quests (one of MCH's, I think?) due to said quests requiring skills that would at a later level be replaced with another skill, I can't help but feel like staying true to the AST lore wasn't at the top of their concerns when messing around with the abilities for 5.0.
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    You're expecting SE to back through every single job quest each expansion to ensure the lore fits with updated changes, resources are better spent else where in all fairness. The cards still exist even if the effect is different, nothing to change here.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Why does everyone keep asking this?

    So little of the AST plot relies on the "lore" of the individual cards. Leveva gives a two-sentence description of each constellation that vaguely alludes to what each card does. That's all it ever involved. The rest treats "the cards" as a single tool and focuses more on healing magicks, conflict with Ishgard and the characters' personal issues.

    Would you like to explain what actually needs changing now that the card effects have been altered?
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    Last edited by Iscah; 08-15-2019 at 01:01 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    You're expecting SE to back through every single job quest each expansion to ensure the lore fits with updated changes, resources are better spent else where in all fairness. The cards still exist even if the effect is different, nothing to change here.
    No, the effects aren't different. They are the same. That's the point.
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    "The fourth heaven has opened its gates, allowing you access to its sacred penetralia. From this day forth, its power is yours to interpret and wield."

    -Leveva, Slings and Arrows
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    No, the effects aren't different. They are the same. That's the point.
    No one is denying the point, but there is nothing to change here. Besides when it comes to in-game lore, you've just been trumped. Do your research.

    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    From this day forth, its power is yours to interpret and wield."
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    Kinda ironic if you ask me. The cards are AST's identity, something people say has no value, yet it's likely because of it [and spaghetti coding] that they weren't entirely removed.

    I'm not going to go deep into the controversy, the healer forums are doing a great job at that, just saying that you could replace all 8 cards with a single spammable buff and it wouldn't change a thing - It's that redundant.
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    Last edited by Allegor; 08-15-2019 at 02:55 PM.

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    The 30-50 block was all about the cards. The 50-60 block was more about the Sharlyan's coming for Leveva. 60-70 block being all about reinforcing the seal on a Kyubi.

    But yeah, a LOT of the AST storyline needs a rework lore wise from the ground up since the class and lore does not match up at all.
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