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  1. #1
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    Eureka would have a hella better recived if it was a tad less grindy. Maybe as it had FATEs, also had "Hunts". For what it was, it wasn't bad if it had been a "shorter experience". Pagos irredeemable though.
    I will always maintain that Eureka would have been vastly improved if they used Levequests as the progression template, instead of FATEs. Hunts too for that matter, but that's another topic.

    Still, Levequests with a tiered progression system (so beat X, get access to the Levequest for Y), perhaps some additional requirements like mob drops. So much better, you can just go in and work on that at your own pace, there's no "Follow the train" mentality to crush any sense of fun... Since they're not FATEs and you're in control of what you spawn and fight, they can also make the actual quest to upgrade the weapon a tad more interesting than "Go gather Crystals", give us actual objectives with specific targets. Perhaps I need to kill Emperor of Anemos to upgrade my Bow, but a friend needs The Lord of Anemos for their Axe. To me that's just more engaging, more fun...

    It also melds much better with any potential Light farming (oh Gods, please no more Light farming) concepts... Honestly most of the "interesting" concepts in Eureka really didn't work IMO because of the FATE train... EXP Chain for special rewards? Yeah but a FATE spawned so screw your EXP Chain. Bunnies? Yeah but a FATE spawned, so enjoy watching that smol bun die to an AoE. Really was just ill thought out IMO, there was no synergy between the activities in Eureka and it suffered for that.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 08-15-2019 at 02:11 PM.

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    Rael Levynfang
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I can definitely see the Lionheart being a Relic for the Gunbreaker.

    I also have an idea that the more we restore the Empty, that eventually we'll be able to explore that land and that will be our version of Eureka for 5.0. However, I think (I hope) SE learned from that whole fiasco and won't restrict obtaining 5.0's relic from just that. Hopefully it will be other means to get one because I just can't deal with Eureka personally.

    I could also see Tempest being utilized more as well. We'll have to some kind of errands for the first's version of Geralt down there. Tempest is just way too empty for the being one of the best areas in the game. I hope SE uses it for something eventually.

    Whatever thet do, I just hope they have multiple means for players to obtain a weapon and don't lock it behind a braindead, grind, zerg-fest.
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    Riot Siren
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I just want to be able to progress it without doing Eureka 2.0.

    Eureka 1.0 basically made it so the SB weapon didn't exist to me since I did not enjoy the content at all.
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    Brynhildr
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    Will the relics be independent of the previous ones?
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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    Will the relics be independent of the previous ones?
    They were so far (aside from skipping a step here and there).

    While I'm not the greatest fan of Eureka, I also hope that it wont have much level synced content in it. Many jobs I enjoy currently dont play great when synced to a lower level.

    That being said, I just hope it comes out soon. I've got too many hours to burn lately and starting to have the grind itch.
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    As long as it isn't attached to whatever the new Eureka-like content will be and I can actually work on it in casual play instead of being forced to do hardcore grinder content then I'm happy. I never did any of the relics in Stormblood because of that.
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Hyperion
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    While some of you hope that the relics do not involve old content, I am the opposite and I want more opportunities to level weapons by going into old content again. I think the ARR and HW relics were brilliant for bringing more life to the duty finder and that was missing in Stormblood. Even if it's limited to a quasi poetics grind, I would like more reasons for veterans to be forced into play with others.

    I will be curious to see what methods they choose for the relics in the end. While there were many players who enjoyed Eureka, there were far more vocal about their distaste. If they do decide to do more Eureka content for relics, how will it have evolved? They must have gotten tons of data from Stormblood, and Diadem before. I know they intend more Eureka content in the future, so I hope that what they have planned will appeal to far more players this time, relic or not.
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    Talinthis Vashavere
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    Lamia
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    I just want them to not look bad. Most of them were terrible in eureks
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    Zadira Shinryu
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I just hope we get a gunblade called Save the Queen and please no Eureka like relic content thank you...
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    Greg Eugen
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I’m hoping for eureka like content for the relic, without the leveling part, which seemed needless.
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