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  1. #11
    Player
    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Character
    Hashmael Lightswain
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Let's see. If your character is the same as listed on the forums there, a quick Lodestone search shows... as a SCH, you're level 62 using a level 58 ilvl 145 book. (obviously if you're posting about being level 63, this hasn't completely updated, but the point still stands)

    Assuming your SMN is using something similar, there's your problem.

    Also, please don't queue as SCH without upgrading that book.
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  2. #12
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    GrenGarm's Avatar
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    Character
    Babou Theocelot
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 73
    I'm calling PEBKAC on this one.
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  3. #13
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    Kurando's Avatar
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    Character
    Ku Rando
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Aside from it becoming more cooldown heavy, SMN is pretty much the same it was before SHB, so if you knew how to play then you shouldn't have any issues now.
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  4. #14
    Player
    Temjiu's Avatar
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    Character
    Kulthoen Akkiran
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Let's see. If your character is the same as listed on the forums there, a quick Lodestone search shows... as a SCH, you're level 62 using a level 58 ilvl 145 book. (obviously if you're posting about being level 63, this hasn't completely updated, but the point still stands)

    Assuming your SMN is using something similar, there's your problem.

    Also, please don't queue as SCH without upgrading that book.
    yeah that's a big difference. Not just the level gap, but 58-62 is across expansion tiers, which is a big increase in ilvl. much bigger then if you went from 54-58.
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  5. #15
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    1,710
    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    Are you not weaving?
    Actually this - these days smn MUST know how to weave ogcds effectively. No way around this fact.
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  6. #16
    Player
    Machi_Machiavelli's Avatar
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    Character
    Tiberius Caesar
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoduh View Post
    If you are lucky to be alive pop cooldowns
    Felt this in my soul. SMN was the first class I tried to mess around shadowbringers with. It was rough.
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  7. #17
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Character
    Okami Amaterasuu
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Titan egi gives you 20% hp shields with his egi assault skill, if you need a higher hp pool to work with
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  8. #18
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    KingSodimight's Avatar
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    Character
    King Sodimight
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80

    You're right

    I was enjoying my summoner class pre-Shadowbringers and was looking forward to leveling that character. However, I felt the same way you did and completely changed class to Ninja via mogstation purchase. I feel its as if they are trying to get rid of this class, they ruined it.
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  9. #19
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    Marc-Vigar's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Marc Vigar
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    First of all, the job isn't broken, it actually feels good weaving all those spells between GCDs, though I'd like to have some QoL improvements like being able to recharge Aetherflow outside of battle.

    Second, you shouldn't have any problem killing enemies, it is true that going from Heavensward to Stormblood is a big change and enemies are WAY STRONGER than previous expansions to the point where you can't pull 3-4 and AoE them down, but 1 vs 1 you should be fine. At this point you should already have Augmented Shire Gear on every equipment slot including weapon and rings, if you haven't used your poetic tomestones, go to Idyllshire and get ilvl 270 items there.

    Besides that, I think your rotation isn't good either, you shouldn't be using oGCDs all together, you should weave them after casting instant spells. For example open with: (Ruin 3 ->Ruin 2 ->Tri-D -> Dreadwyrm Trance), then continue with (Ruin 3 (instant) -> Energy Drain -> Fester), then (Ruin 3 -> Egi Assault 1 and 2) and so on. The ideal situation is getting 2 oGCD spells for every GCD, tht's called weaving and it's the base of the current SMN playstyle.
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  10. #20
    Player
    Uliq's Avatar
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    Character
    Atheros Gaian
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KingSodimight View Post
    I was enjoying my summoner class pre-Shadowbringers and was looking forward to leveling that character. However, I felt the same way you did and completely changed class to Ninja via mogstation purchase. I feel its as if they are trying to get rid of this class, they ruined it.
    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaait... You went from smn to ninja and you think smn is broken?
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