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    Yoduh's Avatar
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    Yoduh Ya
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 63

    Summoners broke?

    Is this class being revamped since they completely broke it with Shadowbringers? Basically at level 63 with a 260 iLevel it goes like this:

    tri-disaster
    energy drain
    fester
    Egi Asssault 1/2
    Ruin IV
    Ruin 3
    Fester

    If you are lucky to be alive pop cooldowns enkindle and dreadworm trance to try and burn down mob before you die.

    90% of the time... Mob wins and you can't even get past burning all your cool downs. Is this a dungeon only class? which why even queue up as DPS summons when you can go scholar.

    Rinse and repeat and god forbid if you get 2. You can't even kill a single mob unless you have 2 to 3 levels on it.

    There has to be something that I am missing here.. no other class is this underwhelming..and Summoner was incredibly OP pre-Shadowbringers.... how can they screw something up this bad.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Do you have your chocobo out and set to either heali.g or free stance? It's true that SMN takes a bit to build up dps when starting their rotation, so that part of the fight means you'll take some damage but nothing that your choco can't handle.
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Your gear is probably extremely outdated or you are doing something off. No job should have any difficulty surviving out in the field.
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    Yoduh Ya
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    Red Mage Lv 63
    That's great when you can have Choco out but still it feels like waiting 180 seconds between pulls for Enkindle to reset is ridiculous. I mean I can just ignore the class for a while. Maybe by time WoW Classic is stale in 6 months they will fix this mess.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Why are you waiting for enkindle? It's not necessary to kill stuff with at all.
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    Red Mage Lv 63
    Because I have no choice. It is literally me within 2000 HP of death every pull. I have to kite the mob in circles until Choco or the Egi can kill it off. Psychik doesn't really have any value as a spot heal anymore. The entire class was obliterated. If there is a better way to play this mess please share. It's a disaster.
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    - For solo (or incoming heavy attacks), use Summon II followed by Assault I: Earthen Armor. Re-apply when needed.
    - For parties, use Summon I for groups and/or Summon III for single targets.

    There: now you won't die as much anymore.
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    Last edited by Exodus-E; 08-15-2019 at 08:59 AM.

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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    If you're having trouble staying alive then set your choco to healer stance, since they will be more responsive to your need for healing. Just make sure your dots are on the mob and do the normal "rotation." That's in quotes, since it's more priority based than a rotation. Maintain dots, use energy drain and fester on CD, pet attacks (especially first one for ruin proc at this level) on CD and spam ruin/ruin 2 on every gcd without missing one. Try not to weave more than 2 ogcd after a ruin2/4 cast and none after a ruin3 cast. I will grant that SMN is now clunkier than before, especially before you get Phoenix trance which smooths things out a bit, but it still works.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Oh, and you mentioned your ilevel is 260, but what is your weapon ilevel? It, more than anything, determines your damage output since it provides both base damage plus primary stat, whereas other gear only provides stats.
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    Owa Owa
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Are you not weaving?
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