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  1. #11
    Player
    Temjiu's Avatar
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    Kulthoen Akkiran
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    I remember back in Vanilla/HW days I'd see a group of BLM standing at the Steps of Nald Aetherite regularly in full lvl 50 BLM gear (pretty obvious with that stuff). They had names like gary, spary. lary, etc. Can't remember the server that was on. I'm on Ultuos now, and Don't see many if at all. Guess that's the benefit of a congested server with no new character creation. Sucks when you want to make a new toon tho...
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  2. #12
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    Valenth's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Valenth Guiran
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    You know what I just wish? That if I use the report feature on a RMT spam shout in chat, the RMT gets on a client session temporary blocklist or something. Anything really to prevent further seeing of the same spam that DOESN'T require me to add several more click and to my blocklist, which gets full eventually and I have to clear it out one... by.... one.... THAT IS TEDIOUS BEYOND WORDS! Please Yoshi... just a current session blacklist of RMT reported characters on my end... that's all I ask...
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  3. #13
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    stanrir's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    I'septha Tayuun
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Machi_Machiavelli View Post
    For some reason, I thought you were talking about the dancing plague trial.
    I was thinking they were talking about coil turn 5 and i was thinking, "why though?" XD
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  4. #14
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    You'd honestly need just a competent GM or two actively enforcing each data center to keep the less prominent types of bots like DoH/L ones under control.

    The RMT bots can't realistically be stopped without more drastic measures because they're a fully automated process.
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  5. #15
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    Gwenorai's Avatar
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    Ivalice
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    Character
    Dyslexius Nervar
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Yeah, I see so many bots on twintania - it's insane on how many there is. More bots than actual players - a bit of an exaggeration but doesn't seem like a stretch sometimes.
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  6. #16
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    EriShvakh's Avatar
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    Eri Shvakh
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Yes, bot menace has been out of control ever since ShB. I've been playing for a couple years now and I've never seen SO MANY bots. Just now I saw archer with gibberish name literally run through the air in limsa. That's something I've never seen before. I hope SE finds a way to cull their numbers somewhat, because at this point this is getting embarrassing.
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  7. #17
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EriShvakh View Post
    Yes, bot menace has been out of control ever since ShB. I've been playing for a couple years now and I've never seen SO MANY bots. Just now I saw archer with gibberish name literally run through the air in limsa. That's something I've never seen before. I hope SE finds a way to cull their numbers somewhat, because at this point this is getting embarrassing.
    They actually tried by nerfing the gil drops in ARR dungeons a long while back, but the farmers just compensated by making even more bots, afterwhich they seem to have just thrown their hands in the air and given up on trying to find a more lasting solution.

    Honestly, they need to just keep taking baby steps and patching up whatever the bots decide to exploit until they get cornered into a situation where they can scarcely make any gil at all. To start, removing the gil drops from ARR dungeons entirely would impede them greatly and stop them from clogging up the instance servers.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 08-15-2019 at 03:30 PM.

  8. #18
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    Taramin's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Taramin Skyflare
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    They're likely flocking to the servers with the new player bonus as I believe that awards a substantial amount of Gil for just hitting certain checkpoints. And Sadly, only way bots will go away is if either the lazy stop buying Gil (Ha!) or SE goes the scorched earth approach, and makes Gil untradeable, and possibly market prices automated.
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  9. #19
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I think just imposing a hard limit on how much gil can be traded by brand new accounts could be reasonable because realistically, normal players are not going to be rolling in money within their first week of play.
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  10. #20
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    MrKusakabe's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Zedek Kusakabe
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Machi_Machiavelli View Post
    Can't, programs like that have gotten extremely sophisticated. Most of the people they are banning are using crappy programs or doing RMT. The real stuff is indistinguishable from normal keystrokes. They'd have to watch things no system is tuned to do, like watching for commonly taken paths, like monitoring, if a number of people walk to the same path the same point and stand in the same position. And with that, they run the risk of banning innocent people.
    No, by having people in the exact coordinates, with gibberish names, and their next destination(s) is/are the exact spot-on pixel-perfect location then it's very easy to automatically ban this. Even friggin NEXON had such thing in place, and it was nice. In the original MapleStory I fell through the floor onto the "bottom of the screen". Have been respawned and auto-banned until I showed a GM the place with the mapping error that could you let fall trough the floor as this should not be possible for a player to hit these coordinates without "hacks".

    If you manage to be pixel perfect at 4035,56X ,3781.8Y and 362.5Z coordinates together with 5 other people, ban all of them temporarily. Or monitor that and if the next 3 locations match again ban them. It's not that difficult.
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