Every problem with the current iteration of healers.

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Although the damage department of each healer has previously given more depth to playing each, I think the redirection away from focusing on the how of damage suits the role more. Even if not much has been done to put depth into other areas of play, if someone wants DPS interactions then that's what a DPS job does, not a healer. I don't think the primary draw of being a healer is to weave DPS personality interests into it.

if i wasnt still casting my dps spells for 90% of my gcds i might agree with you but when most of a healers time is spent doing damage in this game we need our damage spells to be given as much focus by the devs as our healing toolkit

[CrimsonGunner]

if i wasnt still casting my dps spells for 90% of my gcds i might agree with you but when most of a healers time is spent doing damage in this game we need our damage spells to be given as much focus by the devs as our healing toolkit

i'm sorry if it sounds rude but healers aren't dps class.we have in our kits damage but that shouldn't be as important as the healing toolkit.
a healer job is to recover/revive/buff the party that are available in his kit.
the healer classes are divided by my view like this:
white mage is healing/regen(old school healer), scholar has heal+shield(and should be a multi-task healer with his pet),astrologist can be either shield or regen oriented before fights +give certain buffs(healer+regen/shield based on demand+buffer).

when a healer doesn't need to heal,he contribute by dps but again i repeat dps is not a healer focus thats not what he needs to do.
the only things that can be argued about dps part of a healer are:
1.the dps skills work fluently with the kit of the class or not.
2.potency issues that may cause serious problems with solo content.

i think its completely wrong to judge a healer based on dps. those part of his kit are there to help him do solo content and during 0 heal moments he can contribute in dps instead or do something else instead.
a healer main job is primary to heal and support the party with his healing kit,damage is a bonus and the kit as a whole should be the decisive factor in choosing a healer in parties.

[tikiwiki]

i'm sorry if it sounds rude but healers aren't dps class.we have in our kits damage but that shouldn't be as important as the healing toolkit.
a healer job is to recover/revive/buff the party that are available in his kit.
the healer classes are divided by my view like this:
white mage is healing/regen(old school healer), scholar has heal+shield(and should be a multi-task healer with his pet),astrologist can be either shield or regen oriented before fights +give certain buffs(healer+regen/shield based on demand+buffer).

when a healer doesn't need to heal,he contribute by dps but again i repeat dps is not a healer focus thats not what he needs to do.
the only things that can be argued about dps part of a healer are:
1.the dps skills work fluently with the kit of the class or not.
2.potency issues that may cause serious problems with solo content.

i think its completely wrong to judge a healer based on dps. those part of his kit are there to help him do solo content and during 0 heal moments he can contribute in dps instead or do something else instead.
a healer main job is primary to heal and support the party with his healing kit,damage is a bonus and the kit as a whole should be the decisive factor in choosing a healer in parties.

great that you feel our dps shouldnt be focused on but the reality is in xiv healers have always spent more time doing dps so we need these parts to be enjoyable or for healing downtime to dramatically decrease but that requires significant reworks

[CrimsonGunner]

great that you feel our dps shouldnt be focused on but the reality is in xiv healers have always spent more time doing dps so we need these parts to be enjoyable or for healing downtime to dramatically decrease but that requires significant reworks

if dps that important for u as a healer then take a dps class with a healing spell and just have fun with it or wait until a healer with fun dps mechanics will be created for u.

i understand u want to be able to do both.
tbh i always hoped that the scholar will be that kind of multi-tasker,using his pet to do different jobs(carbuncle for attacks ,fairies for support) while scholar does something else.

but again dps is not the main focus of a healer nor should it. healers apply dps to help when they don't need to heal/buff .
the fact healers spent more time dps then heal means that in terms of party members hp they are not below % of their definition of red zones and already apply whatever buff they have to increase dps and keep going without emergency heals.
dps will always be low for healers cause that was never their purpose,we are here for supporting the party either by healing/shielding or giving buffs to members.
healers do dps only when they solo content or have healing downtimes and want to contribute more that way.

*the fact we healers do it is because its basically a common thing,we done what we can to support,so now lets get this over faster.

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if dps that important for u as a healer then take a dps class with a healing spell and just have fun with it or wait until a healer with fun dps mechanics will be created for u.

I used to have that it was called scholar and its been gutted to where it is now

[CrimsonGunner]

I used to have that it was called scholar and its been gutted to where it is now

i understand that, i truly understand the fact of wanting to have also a class that can balance those two things.
thats why i gave scholar as an example,there different types of people and different types of play style.
healers who want to do both dps and healing at the same time,those that prefer to have versatility and answer any case in their kit and even have the simple old school healing.
but again a healer is a healer,u can give him dps,give him different buffs to answer to situations but in the end of the day his job is to heal and support the party.
so for u who want to be able to do both its good,it a different contribute to party, but your still a healer and your role in the end is support how u do it up to you.

[tikiwiki]

i understand that, i truly understand the fact of wanting to have also a class that can balance those two things.
thats why i gave scholar as an example,there different types of people and different types of play style.
healers who want to do both dps and healing at the same time,those that prefer to have versatility and answer any case in their kit and even have the simple old school healing.
but again a healer is a healer,u can give him dps,give him different buffs to answer to situations but in the end of the day his job is to heal and support the party.
so for u who want to be able to do both its good,it a different contribute to party, but your still a healer and your role in the end is support how u do it up to you.

the devs do seem to agree with your sentiments but keep failing at it is the thing they need to think is it worth trying to chase something weve failed at reaching since the base game or do we work with what we have