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    Classes?

    I'm kind of curious about the handling of gear. Going through Eureka, I've seen that some weapons like the Anemos variety, are only equippable by Jobs (i.e.: a Rogue can't equip Nagi Anemos). Why then is there still class gear at Level 80?



    This coat from the Eden Raid, for example, says that it can be equipped by Thaumaturge and Arcanist. But why would you still be using those at this level? They stopped gaining new skills and traits 30 levels ago. Is it just for coding?

    I recall hearing people talk about how they had certain players show up in duties with no Soul Crystal at Level 50 or higher. Wouldn't restricting gear for Classes past Level 35 encourage the equipping of the Soul Crystal (since you'd eventually hit iLevel lockout) and prevent situations like this? I suppose it would prevent those silly PF runs where people try to get 23 others without Job Crystals to clear a Raid, but still.
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    MY guess would be that there is some kind of copy paste selection in the code. So when you set it to be for all of one type of class/job in this case ranged magic it just inserts all the ranged magic classes/jobs. Where as Relic gear is meant for one Job.

    I suppose technically they could do the same for relic gear which is what the Anemos weapons are. But at this point in the games life they really don't want you to be a lvl 70 rogue.
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    I don't think you ever see any gear that is equipable by multiple jobs, that isn't also equipable by their classes.
    Like it's either BLM only, or it's all caster jobs and classes.
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    If a Job has a base class then any gear that can be worn by the Job can be worn by the base. There are some exceptions but that is generally the rule. It is so that there are no issues if the job stone winds up unequipped somehow.
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    if you happen to have a retainer that isn't a job you can equip that gear on them if they are still ACN/THM/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    It is so that there are no issues if the job stone winds up unequipped somehow.
    This is precisely one kind of "training wheel" (to use a term from another thread) that could help ensure you unlock your job and keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    if you happen to have a retainer that isn't a job you can equip that gear on them if they are still ACN/THM/etc.
    Time for retainers to upgrade as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Time for retainers to upgrade as well.
    If they want to give out free upgrades im game. otherwise the cost can be prohibitive depending on the person. Class job upgrades are part of the story. If they want to make retainer upgrades the same, that's cool.

    As a matter of fact, it's about time that this actually became a reality. A quest line to unlock retainer jobs sounds fun to me and an easy way to get retainers upgraded so they match the class paradigm.
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    Typically, the job restriction that you see like on the Eureka items you mentioned (Nagi Anemos) is only applied to equipment that is part of "job identity gear", like the AF sets (the gear you get when you hit max level in ARR/SB/SHB, and the first weekly tome set in HW) and relics (which the eureka weapons are part of, as well as the anemos armor which is job identity gear since it's just the SB AF set but dyeable, while the hydatos armor sets aren't job identity so classes can wear those too).

    Everything else that I can think of is equippable by the associated class.
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