Remove JOB AF requirements please...

[Zenaku]

Why would they do that ...hmmm ?

I never intend to play on a class again so JSE is fine with me.

same here i don't like to solo so i think the only people that are complain would be people who want to play Class and solo but that why they coming up with CSE and JSE to fix that if you want to play a job that would = party no if why or but.

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I mean come on we can't let people complain about everything and then SE goes and change it because a few people agree on that idea this one i'm sorry but Job= Party play and JSE=party play so it wont fit the class system at all.

To OP the AF only help out Jobs so why even wear it? you even say it so why let you chose? if the AF are only for jobs that what make job work in a party there no need to make Class work in a party because there not made for partying class are for low man stuff and solo that the point of the two system.

And like how other been saying class would have more then one job like

Pug---> MONK/PUP So AF if you can wear AF gear on Pug that mean you can wear it on your PUP that would make much sense if you can wear monk AF on PUP lol.

[Arcell]

There's room enough in this game for job specific gear and class specific gear, as well as gear that is shared between them. 1.21 is pretty much all about jobs and showing their potential so it makes sense that they would release more job specific gear.

[ClearEnd]

Some items are alreadt cross jobs if you have looked at some loot from new instances

[Mrfox0707]

I think AF gear need to stay with the job as well. I'm not sure why so many people have issues with space to hold items. I'm one of the few that does not have every class 50 so maybe that's why I never have the problem.

[NoctisUmbra]

Oh look, another person who hasn't been able to get over the self-sufficiency mindset that is completely not the point of using jobs.

GLA better than PLD? This has been repeatedly stated, and even responded to by the devs. We'll likely see a buff to PLD soon. In the meantime, get a WAR tank.

For everything else, get a competent BRD and some good WHMs. This solves pretty much every issue people keep bringing up about jobs and how they aren't independent. They were never meant to be. There is nothing wrong with jobs as a whole, and plenty of reason to use a team of all jobs for every endgame content we have at the moment.

Some people can pull it off, some can't, and some may simply prefer to use a strat that involves some players on classes. To each his own. Just don't try to say that classes are better than jobs in all/most/or even any endgame scenario for that matter. All I hear from that is "Hey, I know it's only been just over a week since they were released, but I still haven't figured out how to use them efficiently, so..."


tl;dr: No way. Job AFs on Jobs. If you can't use jobs well, no need to pretend you can.

[Vaer]

No thanks, when I see someone in AF I should immediately think: That's a "Warrior/Monk/Paladin/Dragoon/Bard/White Mage/Black Mage"

[elreed]

i dont agree with this, AF should be only for jobs, they already said that they would bring class specific gear, but what i would like them to do is to lock job or classes after entering a dungeon, so u want to go as whm well you cant change to war to kill something, u have to stick with that role all the way, right now having that freedom to change inside is like dumbing down bosses and the dungeon itself, doing this will make things difficult and will break the job/class of the month habit, we need balanced parties.

[viion]

In the end, I think the thread is telling you, you dont need to be using Gladiator in the Dungeon, you can use Paladin fine, and that you can use Jobs for everything, and never use classes again.

If not, then the whole thread has missed the point or doesnt do dungeons but I watch Doctor Mogs stream and they all use Jobs and never switch to Classes, so maybe you need to tweak your strategy Mr OP?

[NoctisUmbra]

In the end, I think the thread is telling you, you dont need to be using Gladiator in the Dungeon, you can use Paladin fine, and that you can use Jobs for everything, and never use classes again.

If not, then the whole thread has missed the point or doesnt do dungeons but I watch Doctor Mogs stream and they all use Jobs and never switch to Classes, so maybe you need to tweak your strategy Mr OP?

Pretty much.

There is no endgame content, old or new, that exists in game right now that requires or even promotes the use of classes over jobs. There is only an abundance of players who haven't developed an effective strategy with their team that involves using jobs, some who simply even try to tackle old content with jobs yet brute force it with their old strategy that involved classes.

[Alhanelem]

The whole point of the job system is jobs = more power in a specific way; classes = more flexibility.

This takes away from part of what gives jobs more power and gives it to the classes. No thanks.

BTW this is a relatively young game and we already have more storage than FFXI. I don't feel there is a reasonable complaint to be made here.