Noob question about the spell raise

[Rongway]

I'd rather just get up and push forward with the weakness that lasts barely 2 min than suffer the mental torture of running through an empty dungeon trying to catch up with the rest of the group.

there is a shortcut from the beginning of the dungeon to the boss you just killed.

What catch up? You can be back in the room before the party even leaves it.

If you return before the boss dies, wait a few seconds for the boss to die so that the shortcut updates, then take the shortcut. "The <boss room> is no longer sealed." means the shortcut has been updated.

[Publius85]

What catch up? You can be back in the room before the party even leaves it.

If you return before the boss dies, wait a few seconds for the boss to die so that the shortcut updates, then take the shortcut. "The <boss room> is no longer sealed." means the shortcut has been updated.

I mean we're arguing semantics here, but as simple as what you wrote may be clicking accept raise is even simpler is all I'm trying to say.

[Canadane]

I mean we're arguing semantics here, but as simple as what you wrote may be clicking accept raise is even simpler is all I'm trying to say.

You're not arguing semantics, there's a functional difference in how the next 2 minutes will proceed depending on your course of action.

[YanderePrincess]

I mean we're arguing semantics here, but as simple as what you wrote may be clicking accept raise is even simpler is all I'm trying to say.

That's not what semantics is. I'm not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse or if you legitimately don't comprehend what you've been told . . .

[Dynia]

I'm just amazed someone could get angry over this...

if some1 is angry over this just tell him "pls don't die any more so you won't get that debuff" ^^

[Boomsmash]

if some1 is angry over this just tell him "pls don't die any more so you won't get that debuff" ^^

Also, "Then don't accept it and respawn on your own, you're the one that clicked Accept."

[Publius85]

That's not what semantics is. I'm not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse or if you legitimately don't comprehend what you've been told . . .

I'd respond but I legitimately can't comprehend what you're telling me.

[LukaRoselia]

I'm just amazed someone could get angry over this...

Cause it lowers their phat DPS probably. Which is stupid cause you already lowered your dps when you went and died.

[Gaethan_Tessula]

I'd respond but I legitimately can't comprehend what you're telling me.

You essentially said that choosing to raise after a fight, and releasing and going through the shortcut, is a semantic difference. In this case, shorthand for saying it barely matters, since no one's debating quality of rhetoric here.

But it DOES matter, because taking the raise gives a significant damage and healing down debuff which last for two minutes. And both ways of getting back are equally short if you factor in rez-lock. Taking the weakness by raising can make the run take appreciably longer.

So anyone in that situation should just release and use the shortcut. Doesn't make the idiot tank you played with right, because they CHOSE to accept your raise lol.

[Maeka]

I have personally Swiftcast+Raised tanks in the middle of trash pulls with plenty of time to save the rest of the group. It comes down to how much of the original pull is left and what level you are synch'd at. Enough oGCD AoE heals and you could probably just start spamming those until the tank can get back up.

Or, failing that you could try spamming heals on the DPS if the mobs are close enough being dead, until you get aggro yourself, hit sprint and start kiting the mobs in circles while applying some regens/shields to yourself, buying time for the DPS to kill the mobs (though this doesn't work if the group has 2 melee DPS in it though... works great on ranged, though!)

I have, though, seen healers hard-casting Raise and this should almost never be done unless you're in an 8man fight and you're confident the other healer can handle things meanwhile, and you're confident you won't have to suddenly move to dodge something. It can be done but you gotta be careful.