Is it me or has the community gotten worse...

[mario710]

Don’t meander to far or the hive-mind will spam otter pictures in your thread!

[Zsolen]

Don’t meander to far or the hive-mind will spam otter pictures in your thread!

I'm pretty sure most people would agree that what you want is not okay.

[Xuled]

And your post and other previous state the following things:

1. People wouldn't have to mention it, if others actually bothered to improve AKA care about teamwork.
2. See 1. I already self improved but unfortunately duties depend on the performance of the whole group, not just mine
3. Telling someone they're bad isn't harassment. It's stating a fact. Plus wouldn't have to tell them that if they had an ounce of selflessness on their body, and bothered to pull their weight.
4. You can't dismiss my point by saying I'm not interested in teamwork, when the people I'm talking about aren't interested in it the first place. Why so much coddling and catering to them is what puzzles me and many others.
5. You and others don't care about clearing duties and providing a good experience for the whole group. Just your own.
6. You and others only care about your own personal feelings and not those of the rest of the group.
7. What you call harassment is only what the same thing you are doing here: people complaining that certain players are hurting their game experience.

Why do people keep telling me and others to help someone improve when that person doesn't seek out help nor does research to improve in the first place? Do you think people like me just got lucky and found someone to help me out, or I just did my own homework and got to where I am through my own efforts?

Sir, you are bang on.

Look at how mad this community gets when you ask them to do bare minimums like read tool tips or learn a rotation instead of spamming random buttons. It's quite sad they choose to scapegoat FFLogs and the savage/ultimate community instead of wanting to improve on their own numbers.

[galbsadi]

So, I saw a toxic person in a alliance raid yesterday! (Rabanastre, to be specific.)

...I ignored them, but since I pointed out that I almost never see these people, i felt it only fair to let you know that I saw this uncommon event. I think most other people ignored them too, and we cleared no problem.

[Ayuhra]

This community has always had some toxicity.

I encountered some toxic elitists in Heavensward.

I've always encountered some pleasant folks happy to teach people how to do various raid mechanics in Shadowbringers.

FFXIV has always had all sorts.

[Xuled]

The community is just as bad as it always has been, I am of the opinion that this games community is the worst online community out there. It pretends that its so good, so happy and non-toxic, when its actually full of toxicicty in form of casually just hating everyone who comes from some place else, or doesn't like the things the general community likes. And then it gets all high and mighty in "OOOH we are so good, everyone else is shit though, don't come and ruin OUR community with YOUR toxicity."

Nothing is worse than toxic casual who doesn't know how toxic they really are...

While I fully believe this along with you, it's a different kind of toxicity. In other products, like League it's upfront and direct while here everything is hidden behind passive aggressiveness to avoid swift GM punishments (thanks to the new ToS).

GCBTW <3

[Nedkel]

While I fully believe this along with you, it's a different kind of toxicity. In other products, like League it's upfront and direct while here everything is hidden behind passive aggressiveness to avoid swift GM punishments (thanks to the new ToS).

GCBTW <3

Theee, not really.
Passive aggressiveness is present in leagu to a much higher degree than in FFXIV.
You will be lucky to not see it in league match when you are on losing side.

[Driavna]

Frankly, I do not respect people that cannot compose themselves before speaking. Seriously, nothing you say out of frustration or anger will ever have any value. Passive-aggressiveness may be immature, but I at least know that the person who's upset has to control themselves, which proves to me that they're at least worth basic human decency. If I were to play most other MMO's, I'd have to deal with mindless degenerates that can't act like civilized people. And that's beneath me, so I'll take this game any day of the week.

Passive-aggressive people are at the same level. Usually, passive-aggressive individuals want to leash out but are just a coward too afraid of repercussions. In an ideal world, everyone will be assertive.

Also, just because criticism is not enveloped in a pretty nice package doest automatically make it invalid and dismissing that criticism outright is foolish.

Edit: And no, "vomit" criticism over others is not the way to go but at the same time being blunt is not equal to being rude or "toxic".

[Nedkel]

Passive-aggressive people are at the same level. Usually, passive-aggressive individuals want to leash out but are just a coward too afraid of repercussions. In an ideal world, everyone will be assertive.

Also, just because criticism is not enveloped in a pretty nice package doest automatically make it invalid and dismissing that criticism outright is foolish.

Edit: And no, "vomit" criticism over others is not the way to go but at the same time being blunt is not equal to being rude or "toxic".

They are not.
One does control his emotions, other ones doesnt and just wishes you to get cancer or some stuff like that. Its not the same, its completely different level.
Sarcasm is not the same level as the dead wishes.

Because of thinking like this, we have ceases where looking at woman is being categorised as sexual assault...

Don't go to REDDIT. you WILL be downvoted for going against group think. :c

Reddit is the lowest level in the foodchain, nothing there is allowed. xD