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  1. #171
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    The disconnect between the STF and GMs vexes me because it creates a situation where the latter are actually protecting players who cheat as if you say anything to directly suggest someone is cheating they can easily just file a "harassment" report and get you in trouble as the GMs aren't permitted to actually investigate and see if there's any truth behind the matter before issuing punishment..

    I can't even attempt to at least raise awareness of the cheaters on my server because of this, nor can I remove wastes of space in the Novice Network who spend most of their time botting.

    Then again, if they actually banned people I wouldn't feel a strong desire to do any of that in the first place.
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  2. #172
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    Krojack's Avatar
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    you're never going to see the results. they do the ban waves every so often. that's all the action you're going to get on it. the problem is never going to go away. you will never see instant results.
    I've been reporting the same 2 bots for 7-9 months and they are still gathering this morning. SE won't ban max level gather bots. I'm not telling people to run gather bots but if you were to then you most likely won't get banned.

    Don't run a damage meter for personal use only so you can max your dps though, you will get the ban hammer on you in less than 24 hours.
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  3. #173
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    xJimmehx's Avatar
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    Leon Manderville
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Black Desert completely disabled the trade feature. The only way to obtain most items is to acquire it yourself or buy it on the market board. I dont want SE disabling trades, but maybe a timer would help. Mail as well. Maybe make it so that we cant trade or send mail unless we have like a months worth of sub(USED not pre-paid/stocked) on our account.

    This would definitely suck as a new player, but it would only be a month or so and after you reach said threshold youd never need to suffer it again. However, the gil bots could potentially be lessened quite a bit in that month. If noobs wanted to trade in the first month they could look at the market board or maybe a company chest. Friends could run them through dungeons unsynced as well and pass on drops. This would easily cover repairs and teleports.

    Bots would have to wait out the entire month every time they wanted to make an account.

    I recently made a trial account for my kid to play on and it cannot trade, join an fc and we got to level 15 without ever needing it. I dont think I ever needed it except for trading glamour/mounts/dye/etc with my wife.

    Edit: Oh and trading materials with crafting suppliers/buyers.
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    Last edited by xJimmehx; 08-23-2019 at 06:48 AM.

  4. #174
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Black Desert completely disabled the trade feature. The only way to obtain most items is to acquire it yourself or buy it on the market board. I dont want SE disabling trades, but maybe a timer would help. Mail as well. Maybe make it so that we cant trade or send mail unless we have like a months worth of sub(USED not pre-paid/stocked) on our account.

    This would definitely suck as a new player, but it would only be a month or so and after you reach said threshold youd never need to suffer it again. However, the gil bots could potentially be lessened quite a bit in that month. If noobs wanted to trade in the first month they could look at the market board or maybe a company chest. Friends could run them through dungeons unsynced as well and pass on drops. This would easily cover repairs and teleports.

    Bots would have to wait out the entire month every time they wanted to make an account.

    I recently made a trial account for my kid to play on and it cannot trade, join an fc and we got to level 15 without ever needing it. I dont think I ever needed it except for trading glamour/mounts/dye/etc with my wife.
    This never works.
    All this would do is have botters/gil sellers just make accounts in advance, really. Plus, if they aren't getting banned in the first place, what is really stopping them?

    let's be honest here, the real issue is SE.

    SE lacks a solution, and it seems like they've just given up.

    This should be a pretty easy tell:


    But instead SE barely puts the resources into bot control.
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  5. #175
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    It's frustratingly difficult to find a place on the Aether DC where I can gather in peace without having to put up with DoL bots going in circles past me like a bunch of pesky flies. This is with instances enabled so I imagine it'll only be worse once they get removed.

    I'm also really hoping they'll go into detail about how exactly the ranking system for the Ishgard Restoration is going to work in the next live letter so we'll know whether or not we need to riot in advance.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 08-28-2019 at 09:02 AM.

  6. #176
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    YojimboM's Avatar
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    Jack Rose
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Black Desert completely disabled the trade feature. The only way to obtain most items is to acquire it yourself or buy it on the market board. I dont want SE disabling trades, but maybe a timer would help. Mail as well. Maybe make it so that we cant trade or send mail unless we have like a months worth of sub(USED not pre-paid/stocked) on our account.

    This would definitely suck as a new player, but it would only be a month or so and after you reach said threshold youd never need to suffer it again. However, the gil bots could potentially be lessened quite a bit in that month. If noobs wanted to trade in the first month they could look at the market board or maybe a company chest. Friends could run them through dungeons unsynced as well and pass on drops. This would easily cover repairs and teleports.

    Bots would have to wait out the entire month every time they wanted to make an account.

    I recently made a trial account for my kid to play on and it cannot trade, join an fc and we got to level 15 without ever needing it. I dont think I ever needed it except for trading glamour/mounts/dye/etc with my wife.

    Edit: Oh and trading materials with crafting suppliers/buyers.
    The bots already use FC chests to juggle items and gil. Why do you think so many of them have their own FCs? Disabling trade is a non-solution.
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