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  1. #1
    Player
    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Honestly, consider a new class. I'd recommend Sam if you like melee.

    I really liked the aesthetic of Ninja myself, the assassin type. But the gameplay is very different from what you expect from the assassin dps.

    Nin doesn't get easier, it's one of the hardest dps to play. It has one of the lowest personal dps and you have to work hard even for that. In exchange you get a utility called Trick Attack that your party will expect you to land regularly, from the right position without forgetting it or missing. It's an easy job to mess up, you can clip, mess up mudra's, mess up Ten-Chi-Jin.

    If you're the sort of player who finds a lot of buttons complex and likes to find shortcuts (which is fine), Nin isn't the class.
    Unfortunately, I would have to agree. If you can't get the basic Mudra combinations under control, then the job won't be worthwhile. It only gets more difficult to play as you level and there is no "fix" to make it easier.
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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The best way to memorise Ninjutsu is to memorise directional paths.

    I have them laid out as Ten – Chi – Jin
    This means that Huton, is right to left, and Suiton is left to right, while Doton, is ‘end in the middle’.

    Technically as I use controller ‘Chi’ is at the bottom as well as the middle, so I can think of Doton as ‘down to the ground’.
    Same for Raiton being ‘lighting strike the ground’.
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    Aaramis T'vyl
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 93
    Polo!!


    No?
    Sorry, couldn't resist.
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    WhimsicalPacifist's Avatar
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    Brynhildn Frostwyght
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    This crossed my mind. What if you bound 58 individual keys to map a specific action in the rotation? So rotation goes...
    `1234567890-=/*-
    qwertyuiop[]\789+
    asdfghjkl;456
    zxcvbnm,./1230.

    Which is a full 62 keys. You may need to invest in a Steel Battalion-like setup to add more keys to your control area so you can move your character around, but it will totally be worth it in the end.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaramis View Post
    Polo!!


    No?
    Sorry, couldn't resist.
    I almost made that exact post, but then realized he needed some serious help.
    Kudos for being on my wavelength though.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OwlBlackX View Post
    I love play ninja. But, I don't like Ninjutsu, they are many icons on hotbars
    I don't have good brain.

    Ago person helpped me make marco. But, she don't main ninja.

    Like I tried make

    /micon doton
    /action ten
    /wait 0.5
    /action jin
    /wait 0.5
    /action chi
    /wait 0.5
    /action ninjutsu

    But, it's not 100% works. Happened me sometimes. I clicked Doto as I wanted aoe. But, maroc made it turn Raiton as wrong skill.
    I feel 0.5. sec is too slow? Need make 0.2 or 0.3?

    If you main ninja. Know better make marcos? Thanks.
    Solution for Noob, it's very slow and everyone will see that you are using a macro, just use a good keybind, it's very fast.
    With the habit and it's very fun.

    And... Your dps gonna be very low, lower than it already is now.

    There is a logic in the mudras for one target and AoE, it's not like that you'll be able to chain the mudras HL while your buff and debuff are active.
    If you are unable to play Ninja properly leave them to others ...
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    Last edited by Naoki34; 08-13-2019 at 09:39 AM.

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    Yaro Barake
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Not in game, but Id imagine it could be done with a programmable mouse.
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by svann View Post
    Not in game, but Id imagine it could be done with a programmable mouse.
    Still seems to make it unnecessarily complicated. Any sort of misclick or anything could interrupt it and just end up with a fail bunny instead.
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    Aoki Kha
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    For me it's easier to memorize Mudra combinations based on the keys they're bound to, rather than the names of the Mudra themselves.
    It may help for you to write the combinations down as other people have suggested, then take to a striking dummy and practice them until they've been committed to muscle memory.
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    Aaramis T'vyl
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 93
    As a serious post, I second the "never macro Ninjutsu". It just messes things up, especially with the slightest lag.

    I have my Ninjutsu arranged as:
    Ctrl 1:Ten Ctrl 2:Chi Ctrl 3:Jin

    Raiton is first button, then second (Ten + Chi) for single target. For multiple targets, I reverse it (Chi + Ten = Katon).

    If I want to Suiton to TA, then it's all of them in order (Ten Chi Jin). Huton (haste) is the reverse (Jin Chi Ten).

    And if I mess up the order, say first, last, then middle, I get the AoE DoT (Doton).

    That's the way I've formed my muscle memory, and made sense to me.
    With level 70 TCJ I literally go in that order: ten (shuriken) -> chi (lightning (raiton)) -> jin (Suiton for TA), followed by true north (because a spinning boss makes you hate your life) and trick attack.

    Hope this helps.
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    Last edited by Aaramis; 08-14-2019 at 07:41 AM.

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