Summoner struggles

[AnnaUK]

I got my Bard to 80 and didn't have any troubles.. I still enjoy it, but as the exp server buff is still on I thought I would level Sum.

I am in Shadowbringers now, but this whole time I have noticed just how squishy I am - this is only in outdoor content though.

I watch in envy as other classes can solo fates, (the ones with loads of mobs that gang up on you).. and while I have the damage I would gladly trade some of it - seems now the pet can't tank anymore it's making me dot and run most of the time and it's tedious. The trust dungeon went faster for me though which is a plus.

If I want to get a lot of fates done, what is the best class? So far I noticed Dragoon, Machinist and some tanks having no issues.

[Zyneste]

I got my Bard to 80 and didn't have any troubles.. I still enjoy it, but as the exp server buff is still on I thought I would level Sum.

I am in Shadowbringers now, but this whole time I have noticed just how squishy I am - this is only in outdoor content though.

I watch in envy as other classes can solo fates, (the ones with loads of mobs that gang up on you).. and while I have the damage I would gladly trade some of it - seems now the pet can't tank anymore it's making me dot and run most of the time and it's tedious. The trust dungeon went faster for me though which is a plus.

If I want to get a lot of fates done, what is the best class? So far I noticed Dragoon, Machinist and some tanks having no issues.

C.h.o.c.o.b.r.o

Go tank or healer if you're really worried about dying to single target fate bosses I would say. All else though, pull smart and let your choco heal and youll be fine on any class.

[AnnaUK]

C.h.o.c.o.b.r.o

I have that - it's rank 8 healer atm.. would like to be able to get more fates done to level it. It's not enough, plus my heal is so weak it's a joke.

[Zyneste]

I have that - it's rank 8 healer atm.. would like to be able to get more fates done to level it. It's not enough, plus my heal is so weak it's a joke.

You really should never be using physick to heal passed level 50 on SMN because it scales on MND (if then.) If you're really struggling, switch to your SCH. Could also be a gearing issue.

[AnnaUK]

You really should never be using physick to heal passed level 50 on SMN because it scales on MND (if then.) If you're really struggling, switch to your SCH. Could also be a gearing issue.

I have 385-400 gear in all slots atm.. I don't have any issues in a dungeon.. it's the lack of heals in the open world which are a pain.. that or the complete lack of defense.

[AnnaUK]

C.h.o.c.o.b.r.o

Go tank or healer if you're really worried about dying to single target fate bosses I would say. All else though, pull smart and let your choco heal and youll be fine on any class.

That would be great if the mobs came alone.. they don't.. pull one gremlin and get way more than I wanted to pull.. I use single target spell to pull.

[Kamatsu]

That would be great if the mobs came alone.. they don't.. pull one gremlin and get way more than I wanted to pull.. I use single target spell to pull.

What Egi are you using? If your using Garuda-Egi and have it set to Guard/Sic then this could be why you're pulling more mobs. It's default attack is an AoE attack now, so if it attacks while the mob is close to other mobs... they will get hit and attack as well.

I'd recommend using Ifrit-Egi fi you're not already, and always make use of it's skills/specials when fighting groups. If you're always pulling groups even with Ifrit (it's single-target, it does have aoe but that's only used when you command it) then I'd suggest hitting one with Tri-Disaster, then Bane to spread (doesn't cost aethergage anymore), then spam Outbust. Also use the oCD Egi-Assault skills for extra dps. Doing this will allow you to use Ruin IV on a single target for high damage. Oh, and start with Devotion (aetherpact)... bonus damage on all your dots, then when all mobs are grouped on you hit Enkindle for Ifrit's AoE.

Your other option if you want to level Summoner but don't want to deal with it in overworld is to go Scholar. Leveling in SMN will also level SCH and vice-versa. If you have 385-400 healer gear... you might find Scholar easier due to the self-healing being better (have Chocobo as dps).

[Ardox]

That would be great if the mobs came alone.. they don't.. pull one gremlin and get way more than I wanted to pull.. I use single target spell to pull.

Fates scales with how many people do them in a certain area over a certain period of time. Since there's a lot of people leveling up and upping their Share Fate ranks, the fates are relatively harder in the new area now than they will in the near future. If you try fates in low pop instances during down time (eg. late at night) you should have less problems.

[NosamKin]

As SMN - yes - the gremlins are a special problem . Don't fight them unless in a group - find a different fate.
I've had very few problems with SMN and mob fates -- except for the gremlins!

[sergel02]

As SMN - yes - the gremlins are a special problem . Don't fight them unless in a group - find a different fate.
I've had very few problems with SMN and mob fates -- except for the gremlins!

Those gremlins are evil. I soloed a bunch of FATES on my WHM and then tried those gremlins and got my butt handed to me.