Enrage timer raid design is causing all the problems

[Lyth]

DPS checks are what make damage dealing jobs relevant. If you didn't have checks, you'd run an all tank/healer comp and hammer away at fights for hours just dodging mechanics until you cleared. That's also why there's been a push to differentiate tank/healer dps from pure damage dealer dps this expansion.

That's not to say that the design of fights from a tanking/healing perspective is without problems, however. Auto-positioning bosses are anathema to good tank design. A7S was probably the last well designed fight from a tank perspective. They really need to review how they design their fights. The formula is kind of stale.

[Atamis]

DPS checks are what make damage dealing jobs relevant. If you didn't have checks, you'd run an all tank/healer comp\

And why is it our business how they do it? If they want to take two hours to kill a boss isn't it their prerogative? You're making a non argument. People will still bring as many dps that they can simply to shorten the time between starting and collecting their loot.

[ForteNightshade]

And why is it our business how they do it? If they want to take two hours to kill a boss isn't it their prerogative? You're making a non argument. People will still bring as many dps that they can simply to shorten the time between starting and collecting their loot.

Two reasons.

It makes the DPS role entirely irrelevant. While yes, people will still want faster kills. You don't actually need them anymore. Therefore, you have one role that actually serves zero necessity, which is bad design. The second is it reduces the accomplishment of each fight. There's a reason no one really cares about 24 mans, for example. They're a war of attrition. Savage would become the exact same, especially as worse players would be demanding all tank/healer parties to carry themselves to a clear they really have no business getting. Learn the mechanics.