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    geekgirl101's Avatar
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    Its because right now everyone is basically at 'minimum' item level for most of the savage encounters. Once we have weeks pass for people to buy tome gear you get alot more wiggle room and can afford deaths here and there.
    FFXIV raid design has worked after they figured it out back in HW for the last tier of Alexander. We aren't WoW, I understand you want to use WoW to inspire FFXIV raid design but that's not how the devs have decided to design the raids. This DPS problem happens when Stormblood came out for Halicarnassus (Delta 3) with a good chunk of jobs being under tuned and people getting to that fight much faster than even this tier. The third fight is a brick wall for 90% of the raid community, its called the "static breaker" for a reason.
    Not really. I'm in some pretty shiny 450/460 gear. Ok it's missing some materia, but my damage is being slaughtered by people in 440 gear. It's nothing to do with minimum item level, it's because RDM damage got ignored whilst everyone else got buffed so our damage is the weakest of the lot. It's horribly lazy because I am pushing all I got and doing the very best I can whilst people who are insanely overpowered can out-DPS me without even trying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Let's not forget this important bullet point of the Shadowbringers live letter:

    Which isn't entirely true. You can cheese mechanics as BLM and remain on top. You can push hard like a pregnant hippo and still fail to match the rest of the DPS as any of the other weaker jobs. It's basically this - you come as RDM, SMN, DNC or NIN and it doesn't matter how good you play your role and how skilled you are you will still get benched once progress is done and everyone else has stopped dying to mistakes and relying on you as their res-bot. This expansion has introduced meta classes, something FFXIV was originally trying to avoid.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 08-13-2019 at 03:57 PM.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    Which isn't entirely true. You can cheese mechanics as BLM and remain on top. You can push hard like a pregnant hippo and still fail to match the rest of the DPS as any of the other weaker jobs. It's basically this - you come as RDM, SMN, DNC or NIN and it doesn't matter how good you play your role and how skilled you are you will still get benched once progress is done and everyone else has stopped dying to mistakes and relying on you as their res-bot.
    Pretty much this.

    Almost all of the clear groups for ES4 I've seen are excluding RDM, DNC, and NIN because they don't want to have worry about the DPS check when they can get a mediocre DRG/MNK and still beat it while they need top of the line players for the non-meta classes to not have a rough time.
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