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    Nielk's Avatar
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    Nielk Sachi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Alchemist Lv 80

    5.08 Nin buff / 5.1 Ninja getting gutted...

    Because The Dev Teams Needs High Opinion of the Class for 5.1 i made this post. Ahem for all the Ninja out there i speak Quite Plainly Raise our Personal Dps to Compete with the other 3 Melees Please And Thank You. If you Say But "Trick attack" Its been Stated, Clearly No one Cares About Trick Attack if you need to Nerf it Do it. If you Need to get rid of it Do it. The very low Majority of ppl who play this Class Has Stated Several Times Hardest Classes with High Ping Requirement Should do highest damage ingame. or Least Compete with the other Melees its placed with.

    As for what it brings to the Table Excuse me But Monk has Mantra that helps healers and Dragoons have Eye Tether and Battle Litany. and these 2 are the highest Melees in the game. So please. Give Ninja A Reasonable Buff. The Community who plays it and watches it from the side and seen the class inputs mostly agrees this Class is Heavily miss Matched Just Because Trick attack (Tricky Balance issues) again before you judge look at drgs and mnks if that's too much Trouble, then get rid of "Trick Attack" or nerf it ONLY if you make us Strongest class. (Again This Class is Ridiculous. )

    Yours Truly Reddit. Ninjas Everywhere.
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    Realism_Snide's Avatar
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    Leih'li Molkot
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Is this post poking fun at the angry nins on reddit? Or your honest criticism? Cause I honestly don't know if I should be laughing at this, or disagreeing with you.
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    Torikki Komorebi
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Nielk View Post
    Clearly No one Cares About Trick Attack
    Never a good idea to just assume other people opinions. I for myself do like the trick attack and would hate it if it got nerfed or even removed. And I am sure I am not the only one who thinks that way.
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    Vendal Solairune
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by danbu View Post
    Never a good idea to just assume other people opinions. I for myself do like the trick attack and would hate it if it got nerfed or even removed. And I am sure I am not the only one who thinks that way.
    You aren't I want to keep it, but I would accept it getting nerfed/removed if enough other good things were done to bring us in line without breaking us.
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Would removing the vuln down and buffing the dmg solve the issue? I really hate to constantly see abilities out right removed. Though the ability doesnt do anything related to "tricks" whatsoever so I dont know. So much job identity taken away or not emphasized nearly enough.
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    Veridian's Avatar
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    Aria Cross
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Ninja, for me, is the last bastion against the trend of simplifying dps. I love ninja because it is complex and flexible.

    Trick Attack is appreciated by parties, but if changed, focus more on assassinate.

    If GCDs must consolidate, improve Huton to preserve the speed and flow of our attacks.

    Want to do ninja justice? Give us movement during Ten Chi Jin.
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    Last edited by Veridian; 08-12-2019 at 02:25 AM. Reason: removed weasel words
    Life before death, Strength before weakness, Journey before destination. - The Way of Kings

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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I think the only rework Ninja needs is to mudra use.
    It's clearly too much to handle on the server side, and on high ping.

    Ideally, they should find a way to do it client side.
    Have the client side compile the mudras and calculate the resulting Ninjutsu, then using Ninjutsu triggers the skill server side.
    No need for the 1s cooldown, no delay between button presses.

    Then, do something with the bunny to make it less obnoxious, and have TenChiJin allow us to move while using it.
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    Aaramis T'vyl
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 93
    I suspect the rework is already complete in terms of the dev input. They're probably already testing it out on their private test servers.

    So I suspect our input is for naught at this point. But please look forward to it!

    Ps - shelving my NIN until the job is changed. Enjoying MNK so much more. But your mileage may vary.
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    Vendal Solairune
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaramis View Post
    I suspect the rework is already complete in terms of the dev input. They're probably already testing it out on their private test servers.

    So I suspect our input is for naught at this point. But please look forward to it!

    Ps - shelving my NIN until the job is changed. Enjoying MNK so much more. But your mileage may vary.
    That may be true for 5.8 but not 5.1, otherwise they would just release all at once. Because weve been told were getting two passes we know at least one is going to reflect upon the other, therefore even if our threads dont impact they 5.08 release they will impact the 5.1
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Would removing the vuln down and buffing the dmg solve the issue? I really hate to constantly see abilities out right removed. Though the ability doesnt do anything related to "tricks" whatsoever so I dont know. So much job identity taken away or not emphasized nearly enough.
    It really should have been Sneak Attack, given the rear positional requirement. Trick Attack could have been a follow-up move or something.
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