Please continue bringing up AST and SCH issues.

[Zolvolt]

I love AST. ASt has been my favorite healer for a long time now but this current iteration with the recent buffs is really quite nice. I do think its too many OGCD's to a lord/lady card right now but theres very little I would actually change about the job. The things that /do/ ruffle my feathers is that dying on a trial or savage encounter is far more punishing as Ast than either of the other healers. A death at the wrong time means you group could lose out on an entire divination. Losing not only your cards but your seals is incredibly punishing. Imo you should keep seals if you die.

[Uliq]

The things that /do/ ruffle my feathers is that dying on a trial or savage encounter is far more punishing as Ast than either of the other healers. A death at the wrong time means you group could lose out on an entire divination. Losing not only your cards but your seals is incredibly punishing. Imo you should keep seals if you die.

more punishing then losing your role ability to heal then? When SCH dies it loses it's fairy, the gauge and aetherflow. AST doesn't lose it's job when it is rezzed it loses it's support. And you can ask every ninja how much 10% dps across the board matters in trade for a healer in a raid. Your divination only gives 6%

[TankHunter678]

more punishing then losing your role ability to heal then? When SCH dies it loses it's fairy, the gauge and aetherflow. AST doesn't lose it's job when it is rezzed it loses it's support. And you can ask every ninja how much 10% dps across the board matters in trade for a healer in a raid. Your divination only gives 6%

It causes AST's rDPS contribution which is the entire reason you bring it in place of a SCH or WHM to tank which makes it not worth bringing to begin with. Unless the SCH dies after having just used Aetherflow when you get them back up they will shortly have their aetherflow stacks back. Getting their fairy back out is only 1 GCD cast.

You also have to keep in mind that outside of burning sleeve draw which has a 3 min cooldown it takes 90 seconds for AST to potentially have their Divination back to being properly ready.

[Uliq]

It causes AST's rDPS contribution which is the entire reason you bring it in place of a SCH or WHM to tank which makes it not worth bringing to begin with. Unless the SCH dies after having just used Aetherflow when you get them back up they will shortly have their aetherflow stacks back. Getting their fairy back out is only 1 GCD cast.

You also have to keep in mind that outside of burning sleeve draw which has a 3 min cooldown it takes 90 seconds for AST to potentially have their Divination back to being properly ready.

And what if your sleeve draw is up. You lose what? 3-4% dps hand out across the board? What ifs... right? Anyway That statement was made on the excuse that death to AST was extremely punishing which it isn't. It's less punishing than a SCH dieing. Resummons cost mana and time. Drawing cost nothing but your attention. Also priority when rezzed is healing which you are limited at doing since 2/3rds of your heals are off limits, including your instant heals. You depend on another healer when rezzed or a window so you can cast so you don't die again as sch. AST astrologian you have multiple heals that can be used to save you and you can still play your little cards. You lose a divination but that only really matters to 4 people. You can short sub it out for a lord or lady and be on your way. You can still support and survive.

And even if Aetherflow is up. You waste either your emergency CD for 1 aetherflow stack or two aertherflow stacks with lustrate to get back to half or slightly above, then summon fairy. You still have no fairy guage till you use aetherflow when it is summoned meaning you can't use it's heal moves. Hopefully your tank doesn't take to big a hit or multiple people don't need heals by the time you are ready to do your job again.

[Wawachume]

I can definitely see what people mean when they say death is more punishing to a scholar than an astrologian, but it still feels worse to me on astrologian. It could just be that I have more experience with scholar, so my response to death is more along the lines of "yeah, okay, dead, I can deal with this", whereas I tend to get more derailed as an astrologian.

But I think it's also because:

Resummons cost mana and time. Drawing cost nothing but your attention.

Losing mana and time is a serious detriment, but I don't mind so much because it's an interesting hurdle to overcome. Getting back on track without sufficient mana can actually be kind of fun.

Whereas losing all the work you've put into seals and divination doesn't really make that much difference, but it's more discouraging to me because the work I did counted for nothing.

(Losing my fairy gauge is a bigger problem, but since I mostly use aetherpact for trash pulls I'm fine with just ignoring it until the gauge builds back up.)

[Uliq]

(Losing my fairy gauge is a bigger problem, but since I mostly use aetherpact for trash pulls I'm fine with just ignoring it until the gauge builds back up.)

Fairy gauge? Really not sure I actually care about it since the use is barely there anyway. Just some perspective to think about before claims are voiced was my only intention. Yeah the initial reaction to death as Scholar for me is oh no now I have to pop this lucid + Aetherflow and lustrate only if I don't have enough time for this Adlo which I almost always do. swifty fairy and we ready. But just because I can react this way doesn't mean the class doesn't take a hit from it.